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Does anyone still do PCT and off time?

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Seems like everyone is now just blasting and cruising from the pros to the average gym rat.

Does anyone still do time on and time off with PCT. ?? If so does anyone get lab tests done to see if their test recovers??
 
I run HGC for a while to give the receptors a break even from my TRT. Usually ~3K ius per week.
 
Pct stands for 'people cruising test'
Its 2015 bro heh


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On a serious note ,most people don't put themselves through the terrible hormone Rollercoaster of pct. It's your decision.
 
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Pct stands for 'people cruising test'
Its 2015 bro heh


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On a serious note ,most people don't put themselves through the terrible hormone Rollercoaster of pct. It's your decision.

Hahaha!! TRUTH.

The title of the thread made laugh before I even opened it.

I think it's becoming less common for people to come off gear. It's just easier to stay on. I think there are benefits to both.
 
I run HGC for a while to give the receptors a break even from my TRT. Usually ~3K ius per week.

Receptors needing a break is a bro myth, look into it, do a search here. No such thing as a receptor refresh or downregulation, etc. Obviously the body stalls gains for MANY biological reasons and breaks may help there. But it's not directly due to the receptor issue or the receptors needing to "clear out" or re-sensitize.
 
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Receptors needing a break is a bro myth, look into it, do a search here. No such thing as a receptor refresh or dowbregulation, etc. Obviously the body stalls gains for MANY biological reasons and breaks may help there. But it's not directly due to the receptor issue or the receptors needing to "clear out" or re-sensitize.

I'm sure what you say is true for you and many others. I like the way I feel on HCG for 3-4 months I'm on it. I feel better, I don't loose much but then again I don't compete so I don't worry. I walk around 260lbs working out once or twice a week with minimal food intake with how I operate so it works for me.
 
I'm sure what you say is true for you and many others. I like the way I feel on HCG for 3-4 months I'm on it. I feel better, I don't loose much but then again I don't compete so I don't worry. I walk around 260lbs working out once or twice a week with minimal food intake with how I operate so it works for me.

some have the genetics to do this. If I did this id be 170 lb with a pot belly lol.
 
Some guy could start at a natural 180 with low BF% from sports and aim for a lean 195-200 pounds athletic body...

That guy could achieve that with one or two cycles and hold to that weight while improves shape and maturity...

That's very doable actually and not a bad idea at all. Couple cycles on their early 20's and maybe think about TRT later in life...

For the guy trying to always get bigger and bigger and aims to compete as a bodybuilder, blast and cruise makes much more sense.
 
Can I ask you guys a serious question,

How is your life in bedroom? Are you guys all dependent on Viagra or Cialis.

I know a lot of people say oh I am so horny I cna screw anything, but I have chatted with a lot of people offline and they say that it absoultely sucks and they have to keep a viagra or cialis around.
 
Can I ask you guys a serious question,

How is your life in bedroom? Are you guys all dependent on Viagra or Cialis.

I know a lot of people say oh I am so horny I cna screw anything, but I have chatted with a lot of people offline and they say that it absoultely sucks and they have to keep a viagra or cialis around.

All married? Like 5+ years with kids? I see that with this group, yes. Guys of the same age, not locked in a marriage, don't ever seem to complain much about libido.... Just an observation.

Also consider what you are comparing here. Being "horny" or having desire is libido. You can have low libido and not have erectile disfunction (trouble getting and staying up). Or you can have high libido, or desire, but have some issues staying hard. Imo, low libido can happen due to lack of attraction, boredom and stress. ED is a result of an underlying physical issue. Cialis won't fix a lagging libido and the 7 year itch. Lol.
 
Can I ask you guys a serious question,

How is your life in bedroom? Are you guys all dependent on Viagra or Cialis.

I know a lot of people say oh I am so horny I cna screw anything, but I have chatted with a lot of people offline and they say that it absoultely sucks and they have to keep a viagra or cialis around.

So many people are afraid to admit this but I am dependent on cialis. Doesn't matter if I'm blasting or on TRT. I'll admit it.

edit: I am not married and don't have a girlfriend, so most of the time I have sex if with a different woman. If I have a steady gf, I don't need it as much.
 
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So many people are afraid to admit this but I am dependent on cialis. Doesn't matter if I'm blasting or on TRT. I'll admit it.

I think it becomes a mental crutch for some. I have friends who take it when they go to bars to drink in case they get lucky, it's like a safety net that ensures they will perform well on a one night stand, even if they drink too much. A bad first impression/performance can be ego crushing. The mere fear of replicating this failure again in another first encounter can create anxiety and ED.

Honestly, put me on test/tren, get me drunk on whiskey and add 25mg of cialis in a one night stand scenario and it generally results in a ridiculously long and rough sex session. Absolutely jack hammer with impunity, never go, but rock hard for 2 hours. Girls remember that shit and talk about. Knowing you will absolutely punish with a rock hard cock, no matter what, is pretty addicting mentally. So using it all the time to ensure optimal performance happens and eventually becomes a crutch. I'm back with my wife now and barely use it, no need.
 
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All married? Like 5+ years with kids? I see that with this group, yes. Guys of the same age, not locked in a marriage, don't ever seem to complain much about libido.... Just an observation.

Also consider what you are comparing here. Being "horny" or having desire is libido. You can have low libido and not have erectile disfunction (trouble getting and staying up). Or you can have high libido, or desire, but have some issues staying hard. Imo, low libido can happen due to lack of attraction, boredom and stress. ED is a result of an underlying physical issue. Cialis won't fix a lagging libido and the 7 year itch. Lol.

No bro, I am 29 and single and no kids. I have turned down offers cause of my fear of what is going to happen in bedroom. Sure I can take a viagra pill or cialis and it will be ready to go, and I do that every now and then but it just feels not right. I mean it feels like I am cheating lol. Besides it is a pain in the ass to plan, and if it doesnt go down you are stuck with a stuffy head and a boner.
 
So many people are afraid to admit this but I am dependent on cialis. Doesn't matter if I'm blasting or on TRT. I'll admit it.

edit: I am not married and don't have a girlfriend, so most of the time I have sex if with a different woman. If I have a steady gf, I don't need it as much.

how old are you nothuman?
 
No bro, I am 29 and single and no kids. I have turned down offers cause of my fear of what is going to happen in bedroom. Sure I can take a viagra pill or cialis and it will be ready to go, and I do that every now and then but it just feels not right. I mean it feels like I am cheating lol. Besides it is a pain in the ass to plan, and if it doesnt go down you are stuck with a stuffy head and a boner.

Definitely sounds like a mental crutch or hang up like I talked about in post above. It's like you have no confidence you won't have ED issues unless you take it. Add drinking into the mix and ya, could end up bad. You may not need it every time but the worry/anxiety you have about not being on it is going to compound the ED issues as its HIGHLY interwoven with mental state/relaxation when seen in younger males who normally shouldn't have ED issues.
 
Definitely sounds like a mental crutch or hang up like I talked about in post above. It's like you have no confidence you won't have ED issues unless you take it. Add drinking into the mix and ya, could end up bad. You may not need it every time but the worry/anxiety you have about not being on it is going to compound the ED issues as its HIGHLY interwoven with mental state/relaxation when seen in younger males who normally shouldn't have ED issues.

Any advice on what to do?
But you would think if that was the case it wouldn't happen when I am alone with porn.. But still same issues
 
Any advice on what to do?
But you would think if that was the case it wouldn't happen when I am alone with porn.. But still same issues

If that's the case, it sounds more physical than mental. I'd take a look here and do some honest self analysis. You shouldn't be having much genuine blood flow reduction based ED, like older men, at only 29. However, it's a complex issue with many causes. I personally think in younger men it's mostly rooted in psychological issues/mental hangups. But if it occurs when using porn, could be more based on an underlying physiological problem.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/erectile-dysfunction/basics/causes/con-20034244
 
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Can I ask you guys a serious question,

How is your life in bedroom? Are you guys all dependent on Viagra or Cialis.

I know a lot of people say oh I am so horny I cna screw anything, but I have chatted with a lot of people offline and they say that it absoultely sucks and they have to keep a viagra or cialis around.

Depends on what supps im on. Just test, dbol, mast or EQ and im a sex machine. If I take deca, tren or both without an anti prolactin my dick wont work without antiprolactin and cialis. Add in caber and im back to normal but still dont have a sick sex drive as if I were on test only. Test, Mast, Dbol would be a combo for me with the most sex drive. Test, tren, deca and progestin byproduct peptides would be the type of combo that kills sex drive and fuction for me without countering medications. It really just depends on the aas youre on and you persinally as to whether you need a Cialis or viagra or not.
 
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I hate being depended on something and therefore I cycle, pct, and then my cycle time+pct time=my off time.

I am not planing on competing so why cruise the rest of the year but if I did I would improve a lot faster and life would have been a lot easier (it's a lot more motivating when your results come in faster).
 
I still cycle off. It just doesn't make any sense to chain yourself to exogenous hormones unless you're relying on athletic performance for your livelihood. Even then, you need to take it under serious consideration that you are shortening your lifespan. Allowing your body time off to return to homeostasis helps mitigate the risks of being on. If you are not getting paid to blast and cruise you are simply looking at life in a short sighted manner, in my opinion.
 

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