4th week of sust adding winnie?

joeyrods · Jul 13, 2009

im on my 4th week of sust and would like to add winnie into it which week would be the best to add it in

superbee · Jul 14, 2009

well IMO since all esters of the sust have kicked in now I would add it in the last 4 weeks of the cycle to harden up. Make sure you have blood work completed and your taking something for your liver (milk thistle, Liv-52, Essential Forte) winny always makes my lipids go to shit and my enzymes go high.

joeyrods · Jul 15, 2009

well i know winnie will harden up the muscles im currently on a bulking cycle will winnie help cutt while i bulk or would i have to run a completely different cycle?

Pekkerwood · Jul 15, 2009

joeyrods said:
well i know winnie will harden up the muscles im currently on a bulking cycle will winnie help cutt while i bulk or would i have to run a completely different cycle?

Joey:

My opinion only and there are a lot more experienced inputs that mine but I think the focus on "cutting" and "bulking" is more of a matter of amounts and diet than compounds.

My bulking cycle? Tren and Test. My cutting cycle? Tren and Test. I altered amounts and calories and cardio to determine where I was going with it. So called "maintenance" amounts or "cruising amounts" versus the 1g plus amounts I did bulking. BTW I think I did it wrong. If I did it over I would take the slow slog upward without the big gains and cutting.

BTW about ten years ago, before I became a "Fina" man, I used injectable Winny every summer with test with good results.

Yes you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time in my opinion. My goal was always to just maintain muscle while losing fat, but a lot of experienced folks now "bulk" slowly, over time, while retaining leaness as a better alternative "pure bulking" and the resultant fat and bloat that may come with it.

Good Luck