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advice on this test/tbol short cycle...

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hey, gonna run some test and tbol...shorty cycle. Here's what I got planned:

1-50: Test prop 120mg EOD
1-50: Tbol 50-60mg ED
1-55: HCG 200ug EOD
1-90: Aromasin 25mg ED
53-73: Clomid 50mg ED
53-73: Nolvadex 10mg ED

also going to be running CJC1295 100ug/GHRP-6 100ug every night in a fasted state (when I wake up and piss I'll jab myself) and prami at .25mg every night (to synergize with the GH-releasers). Thats for 3 months (all I can afford hehe).

Am I good to run the aromasin throughout the entire cycle and then beyond even the end of PCT? I might drop the aromasin down to 12.5mg during PCT and after?

Thanks a lot!
 
Looks pretty good - I would drop the T-bol (trashes your HDL's & only so-so for gains) and go 1/2 of your suggested Aromasin.
Best of luck with your research.
 
ok on dropping the aromasin down...if I can use less and be fine then I'll do that.

About dropping the tbol: really? What about lowering the dose a little bit? I am concerned about cholesterol (bad kind) as my family has a history of heart disease. But I am only planning on doing two of these 50 day cycles a year at most...so as long as I get regularly checked wouldn't I be good to start experimenting?

Thanks man!
 
We are all different and as such, respond differently. Give it a go and get tested every 4 weeks. If you see your HDL headed south, then pull it and just cruise on in with the test. The bad part is that it possibly could take from 3-6 months to get your HDL's back up. So, if you are the 6 month type of guy, you will have low HDL's all of the time. :eek:
If I were ever to do an oral agent again, it would most likely be 'var.
 
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doesn't var trash your HDL also?
 
I have yet to personally try it. The people I know have not had any problems. The only problem I have with it is its price. Just think of it as a -you get what you pay for kind of thing-.
 
well ok...its not that bad pricewise with one of our sponsors. Its about 10 dollars more for each 100 tabs. That comes out to like 30 bucks more for a 50 day supply of 60mg.

Everything I read though suggests tbol is a good bit stronger at building mass. I would just go with dbol since I am after mass mainly, but I do not want to deal with the nasty estrogen metabolites (even if I run an AI I don't want any of that nastiness), plus I don't want to get a bunch of water weight and make it obvious that I am on something (i can't let that happen and the test is already going to bloat me enough based on my experience with it last year).
 
Var would drop my HDL by 8-10 points whereas T-bol would take it to single digits...again, that's just me.
 
damn that shit is scary. :eek:

and then you say it takes you 5 months or more to recover to normal levels? hmmm...maybe I'll drop my tbol dose down as low as possible for it to help boost the test just a little.

what about if the cycle was shorter than 50 days? I might do a 30 day cycle if I can get some good gains in that short a time (I bet recovery would be easier too).
 

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