EQ....TEST EN 10 week cycle

[dfl289]

What dosage nolvadex should I take posting my cycle. Any other help or advice is welcome.

[juicy j]

Originally Posted by dfl289

What dosage nolvadex should I take posting my cycle. Any other help or advice is welcome.

Are you asking for PCT help?? What are the dosages of the cycle??

[iprimate]

Originally Posted by dfl289

What dosage nolvadex should I take posting my cycle. Any other help or advice is welcome.

Your post's title should be relevant to your post's content. If you are asking how much Nolvadex you should take post-cycle then you are asking a basic question that has been asked many times. Use the search function of the forum.

[dfl289]

Originally Posted by juicy j

Are you asking for PCT help?? What are the dosages of the cycle??

400mg EQ week 250 test e week for 10-12 weeks.

[Malic777.com]

20mg nolvadex every day for 2 weeks should be fine at that dose and length...its all individual but with the above you should be fine...do more research on post cycle therapy and cycles in general it will help you get the most out of your cycle...alex

[dfl289]

Thanks Malic777 for all your help.

[mrmarcus]

for greatest results eq at 12/14 weeks

[PsyT]

shouldn't you run the test a little past the EQ?

[juicy j]

Originally Posted by PsyT

shouldn't you run the test a little past the EQ?

Not necessarily, there wouldn't be any negative effects like there would be if say he was running tren e at that dose in place of the EQ.

Originally Posted by mrmarcus

for greatest results eq at 12/14 weeks

I am going to go against the grain here and say I don't believe this is true. I can personally feel 600mg EQ way before the 12-14 week mark. But, everyone is different, gotta see how you react.

To the OP, I would run PCT like this for the cycle doses you listed...

clomid/nolva
50/40
50/40
0/20
0/20

I think clomid is essential in a pct....if the cycle were to run 14+ weeks, I would lengthen the PCT to 6 weeks. If you can run HCG throughout or blast a few high doses as the esters are clearing so that your transition into PCT will be smooth. Have fun!

[xxsuprman22xx]

Originally Posted by mrmarcus

for greatest results eq at 12/14 weeks

I feel Eq around the same time i feel test. I have to disagree as well.

[b dub b]

def. run EQ longer, Id run the cycle for 14-16 weeks. someone above mentioned 12, personally 14min imho. takes a goood 4-5wks for the eq to be in full effect

[PsyT]

would it kick in much quicker if he frontloaded bigger doses?

[swedemiester77]

Originally Posted by juicy j

Not necessarily, there wouldn't be any negative effects like there would be if say he was running tren e at that dose in place of the EQ.

Yes, run the Test one week past the EQ, start PCT 2 weeks later.

I am going to go against the grain here and say I don't believe this is true. I can personally feel 600mg EQ way before the 12-14 week mark. But, everyone is different, gotta see how you react.

I don't think anyone is saying that you start feeling the EQ at week 12-14, but that it takes longer to feel the effects than Test, so to draw out the cycle to get more weeks on EQ.

But I do agree on HCG, 250mcg 2X/week starting around the 3rd week (maybe 2nd if doing a kick start oral)

[dfl289]

Planned on 400mg EQ and 200-250 TEST e weekly for 10-12 weeks, unsure if I should up the mgs of both and extend the cycle to 14-16 or not for the best results. Opinions are varied and all are considered. Please explain thoroughly including post cycle therapy so that I dont leave any stone unturned. Thanks again!

[boggs67ss]

You should definetly up the test to at least 500mg.

[juicy j]

Originally Posted by swedemiester77

Yes, run the Test one week past the EQ, start PCT 2 weeks later.

I don't think anyone is saying that you start feeling the EQ at week 12-14, but that it takes longer to feel the effects than Test, so to draw out the cycle to get more weeks on EQ.

But I do agree on HCG, 250mcg 2X/week starting around the 3rd week (maybe 2nd if doing a kick start oral)

I agree, run test one week after EQ and start PCT 2 weeks later.

I just feel that if someone is not on HRT or planning for HRT, then there is no reason to go past 12 weeks on any cycle. I have read studies that suggest the pituitary has a hard time recovering after a cycle 12+ weeks in duration. Also, I feel that you get the benefit of the EQ relatively quickly so stretching it doesn't really matter. Why you ask....because after 10-12 weeks gains taper off but the side effects of continued use stay the same, ie diminishing returns.

I start HCG at the beginning of week 2, especially with an oral, I can see testicular atrophy begin at that point.

Run the cycle how you want but those are my opinion based on research and personal experience with these compounds. If you are looking to gain mass, you will need more test IMO. Say 500mgh test and 400mg EQ. If you are doing this for overall increase in endurance or for a slight performance enhancing effect, you are good with the doses you described. Also, I always run proviron and HCG, two very underrated drugs.

[PsyT]

Originally Posted by swedemiester77

But I do agree on HCG, 250mcg 2X/week starting around the 3rd week (maybe 2nd if doing a kick start oral)

What is your reasoning for waiting to start HCG therapy? I hope you are not using a visual check of your balls to determine when you should start HCG, because the production of LH can dramatically drop without any noticeable changes to the testicles (the leydig cells make up less than 10% of your nuts).

I have heard it is best to start HCG immediately with the first injection of testosterone because as soon as 24 hours after that LH will start rapidly falling.

[swedemiester77]

Originally Posted by PsyT

What is your reasoning for waiting to start HCG therapy? I hope you are not using a visual check of your balls to determine when you should start HCG, because the production of LH can dramatically drop without any noticeable changes to the testicles (the leydig cells make up less than 10% of your nuts).

I have heard it is best to start HCG immediately with the first injection of testosterone because as soon as 24 hours after that LH will start rapidly falling.

Yeah, I guess I was basing it on past experiences with PHs and assumed DBol would be the same (though for me it was actually weaker in strength, size, and side effects). Also, I tend to get shut down pretty quick compared to others, so I started HCG in the beginning of week 2, maybe next time Ill start it with the rest of the compounds.