mass stack with less water retension

[greaser]

im 6 ft 250pnds im thinking taking dbol about 40 mg ed but i want to stack it with some other gear also for more mass but im affraid of water reten... what is a good stack i want more mass

[gstracer]

wel i would say do some test e 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks and week 1-5 dbol 40-50 mg a day you will deff blow up on that if your worried about bloat take 20 mg nolvadex everyday for the whole cycle

[Ragin' Cajun]

I would recommend the dbol with 500mg test E or C. I would use arimidex or aromasin instead of the Nolva. Find that Nolva to hinder gains too much

[greaser]

Originally Posted by Ragin' Cajun

I would recommend the dbol with 500mg test E or C. I would use arimidex or aromasin instead of the Nolva. Find that Nolva to hinder gains too much

how much arimidex or aromasin per day

[PsyT]

^ as far as I understand, it depends on a lot of factors, like bodyfat and idiosyncratic differences (differing levels of aromatase enzyme). I have been told to start at 12.5mg and if thats too much then drop to 6.25mg or if its not enough add as you see fit. Its too much if your libido nosedives. Its too little if you're getting estrogen sides.

[juicy j]

The doses psyt stated are for aromasin...personally I use arimidex at .5mg e3d if it's not working I up the frequency to eod or ed. Better to start low and if you get estro sides bump it up.

[notsobig32]

if you are concerned about bloat, you can always do it the harder way and drop your bodyfat into single digits before you start your cycle and keep your eating strict. When you are at a lower bodyfat and eating on point the sides are much more mild and any bloat is considerably less noticeable. Just my 2 cents.

[PsyT]

Originally Posted by juicy j

The doses psyt stated are for aromasin...personally I use arimidex at .5mg e3d if it's not working I up the frequency to eod or ed. Better to start low and if you get estro sides bump it up.

YES! Thank you! I am sorry I thought we were talking exclusively about aromasin. VERY different dosages for adex!!!

[phatkid77]

well, its diet dependant...really is.....but i guess youll eat more if you want more mass.....
im on 500 test E and 40mg dbol, 0.25mg adex EOD....and ive lost 10lbs and look pretty good while ADDING more carbs to my diet....go figure

phats

[boggs67ss]

Dbol will bloat you, for solid gains try high dose of anavar, solid gains.

[greaser]

i read some treads about adex giving real bad back acne off and on ? but thanxs for the help bros im thinking of running ENDOSYN test e with my stack is there any thing that will maybe give me better results cause theres a lot of good gear out there

[Malic777.com]

get any mild over the counter herbal diuretic to control the bloat...moon face is a bitch lol...alex

[usilemu]

Originally Posted by PsyT

^ as far as I understand, it depends on a lot of factors, like bodyfat and idiosyncratic differences (differing levels of aromatase enzyme). I have been told to start at 12.5mg and if thats too much then drop to 6.25mg or if its not enough add as you see fit. Its too much if your libido nosedives. Its too little if you're getting estrogen sides.

no man tht dose is high, .25mgs will prolly do you good you can even do dat erry other day depending on your body it varies

[PsyT]

^ psst read the entire thread before posting dude

I was talking about aromasin.

[mopchopper]

Originally Posted by greaser

im 6 ft 250pnds im thinking taking dbol about 40 mg ed but i want to stack it with some other gear also for more mass but im affraid of water reten... what is a good stack i want more mass

i dont think you will find any AAS that is used for bulking/adding alot of mass that wont cause the water retention...water retention IS the mass that u get from them....that is why you wont gain near as much weight if you use an AI or a compound that doesnt aromatize. AAS that dont aromatize are usually used for lean gains or cuttin cycles...if you wanna gain mass eat more calories and protein, lift heavy and use dbol/anadrol and/or test

[juicy j]

Originally Posted by greaser

i read some treads about adex giving real bad back acne off and on ? but thanxs for the help bros im thinking of running ENDOSYN test e with my stack is there any thing that will maybe give me better results cause theres a lot of good gear out there

Endosyn is good gear bro but personally, I would rather use HG for test...I refuse to use a ugl unless there is no HG equivalent (tren, deca, EQ, etc.).