Tren after 16weeks- New cycle Deca/Test Etha

[nyterdr]

I was on a cycle of tren and test enth/Prop. I stayed on this cycle for approx. 16.5 weeks had a hard on every day was killin my ol lady. Made a few gains. Then a friend gave me a grip of Tren with more kick. He said it would make him sweat too much and made him eat too much. I weigh approx. 176 lbs when I started my first cycle approx. 9 months ago I was 150. I eat clean and I was on new tren pinning everyother day. I did that for the past month. I have new cycle in hand just started Deca/test Enth 300 mg each- my sex drive is gone. I trying to put on another 20 lbs (long term goal). I increased my diet to approx 500 more calories. I eat about every two-three hours of straight protein, veggies and two table spoons of PB only, everyday. I hit gym on a 5- 2 split with rudimentry main building movements. I have being trying not to over train and staying smart about form. I am 44 and need help. I put in at least three- four times a week of at least 25-30 min of aerobics at my target heart rate (very slow pace) of 115 BPM. Any suggestions on my sex drive and should I be pinning more often than every four days or should I be taking a few weeks off from the juice? Will I see gains with Deca?

[SOCOM]

Your Test should be higher than the Deca, So bump the Test up to 500.

[mrsoul]

so you ran tren for 16 weeks?

[PsyT]

Originally Posted by SOCOM

Your Test should be higher than the Deca, So bump the Test up to 500.

says who? I hear people run nandrolone alone without ANY test with good results! I also hear people run nandrolone with just HRT levels of test! So what does 'should' mean in your post? Do you mean most people will get libido issues if they run more deca than test? Confused about your blanket statement

[liftalot79]

Most of the Guys that have there Deca mg over there Test Mg are buying Weenie Pills(Viagra,Cialis) because it would go up or it won't stay up. Try it and see if it happens then just go back a 100mg or so then your Test and in a couple of weeks your Weenie will work like it it suppose to.

[nyterdr]

Yes I ran for about 16 weeks. It probably wasn't he smartest thing. I got a bit addicted to pinning and needed it almost every day. When I didn't pin I thought was cycling correctly. Im past that now just trying to get on track. your thoughts. With that much tren I figured I saturated my test and shrunk my balls and killed the libido. Can I bump my test from 300 mg to 600 mg and keep Deca at 300mg every four days or should it be longer?

[MegatronsMuscle]

With running all those 19-Nors you need to run a prolactin antagonist - prolactin is what is killing your libido with the Tren/Deca.

Look into Pramipexole. I am running a healthy amount of Deca right now with no sexual/prolactin sides - because I am running Prami.

[mrsoul]

i would do a proper pct and stay off for a while. you are beating the shit out of yourself for what sounds like minimal gains.

[ironjunkie]

Originally Posted by SOCOM

Your Test should be higher than the Deca, So bump the Test up to 500.

Yes your Test must always be higher than deca! Thats probably why your sex drive went down. you can increase your test E or add a quick acting one like Test Ace or susp. That should get you going!!

Are you using HCG and AI's

[ironjunkie]

Originally Posted by PsyT

says who? I hear people run nandrolone alone without ANY test with good results! I also hear people run nandrolone with just HRT levels of test! So what does 'should' mean in your post? Do you mean most people will get libido issues if they run more deca than test? Confused about your blanket statement

Good point!

With HRT people are running test equal to deca but there also on HCG and AI's. I ran it that way also and didn't have any problems. I'll say this....When I did up the test I was fucking 3X's as much.

My doc always recommend test qual to deca or more.

People can run a nandrolone alone or anything for that matter but if it's not test it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. I personally don't recommend it and there's plenty of people that would agree. Deca isn't strong enough to use by itself to give you the desired affect compared to using test alone. Low dose of deca is not going to hurt you but uping the dose may add to more sides of deca dick if your not taking anything to counter it.

Just my opinon.

[nyterdr]

thanks for the info Ironjunkie- I am really new to posting and some of the venacular is new to me and not a big text'r either. So please explain what HCG and AI's are. If someone out there could be of big help to explain further abbreviation I would apprecitate that as well so I can follow and get a better understanding of what is being advised ie, Dhea, AAS, HRT etc.

[SOCOM]

Originally Posted by nyterdr

So please explain what HCG and AI's are.

And you ran TREN for 16 weeks????

[ironjunkie]

HRT: Hormone replacement therapy
What I'm on!


AAS:Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid. The general term that you should know. You were on them!!!

HCG:Human Chorionic Gonadrotropin. Read up you need it!!

AI's:Aromatase Inhibitor: Read up you need these also!!!

Try this board for some info. It was one of the first boards I was on in 1999. It was a major source board back then. Now I just go there for basic info besides the other boards I'm on.

Anabolic Steroid Profiles

I gave you the info now educate yourself brother. These are basic things you should know before you start. Have fun!!!! Were all here to help!!!

The HCG and the AI's could have help'd with your low sex drive issue. Would have kept your balls going and lower estrogen (to much estro increases prolactin which effects your sex drive). Some AI's have the secondary ability to also increase sex drive, and directly lower prolactin.

Hope this helps!!

[nyterdr]

Thanks again- very useful information- I would like to pick up a book like Anabolic Gameplan or Layman's Guide to Steroids - do you recommend anything in particular. I figure I can get some indepth education on a good publisher that can spare this site of all my unanswered silly questions.

[Beerado4u]

Originally Posted by nyterdr

I was on a cycle of tren and test enth/Prop. I stayed on this cycle for approx. 16.5 weeks had a hard on every day was killin my ol lady. Made a few gains. Then a friend gave me a grip of Tren with more kick. He said it would make him sweat too much and made him eat too much. I weigh approx. 176 lbs when I started my first cycle approx. 9 months ago I was 150. I eat clean and I was on new tren pinning everyother day. I did that for the past month. I have new cycle in hand just started Deca/test Enth 300 mg each- my sex drive is gone. I trying to put on another 20 lbs (long term goal). I increased my diet to approx 500 more calories. I eat about every two-three hours of straight protein, veggies and two table spoons of PB only, everyday. I hit gym on a 5- 2 split with rudimentry main building movements. I have being trying not to over train and staying smart about form. I am 44 and need help. I put in at least three- four times a week of at least 25-30 min of aerobics at my target heart rate (very slow pace) of 115 BPM. Any suggestions on my sex drive and should I be pinning more often than every four days or should I be taking a few weeks off from the juice? Will I see gains with Deca?

Heard TREN decreases hunger....sweating at night tho means its working