Deca is overrated !

[raw33man]

put on 25 pounds with deca... Looked like shit, moon face, deca dick, bloated like there aint no tomorrow

I lost 15 pounds 5 6 weeks after coming off deca, was on TRT... kept 10 but it wasn't worth it in my opinion

 

[highlife]

to bad

too bad you feel that way.i can empathise with you though.but i love the bloated look.im thick and full.ive never looked better.bye the way im not a bodybuilder nor do i ever intend to be.

to me decca and test is the shits!
constant hardons,strong,look good.

bye the way i keep my estrogen under control with a AI [arimidex] 1/2 mg.
once every other day and 10mgs nolvadex every day.plus .500 mcg cabergoline twice a week.and im a old fuck who has the aromatase enzyme in full control.
let me tell you why i do it this way.first off arimidex will not completely kill off all estrogen,you need some[hence 1/2mg..because of that i also do nolvadex to make sure i dont get bitch tits.[insureance]
its a ongoing guesing game.the onley reson im bringing this up to begine with is you have stated in prior posts your loss of wood
well guy-i sure hope i can help ya some.if not -i do enjoy some of your posts.
and good luck.

 

[raw33man]

thanks bro !

I weight lift because of looks... not because I want to be a bodybuilder or be a strong man, I don't give a fuck about those two things lol ! I rather have a beach body than looking like any pros out there

I'm sure a lot of men are on the same boat as me. so advice is to never touch deca, it fucked with me mentaly man ! I always have strong jaws but deca totaly turned my face into a fatty

 

[ajdonutz]

thanks bro !

I weight lift because of looks... not because I want to be a bodybuilder or be a strong man, I don't give a fuck about those two things lol ! I rather have a beach body than looking like any pros out there

I'm sure a lot of men are on the same boat as me. so advice is to never touch deca, it fucked with me mentaly man ! I always have strong jaws but deca totaly turned my face into a fatty

Did you run an AI and either caber or prami on cycle?

 

[Moe1ron]

i personally dont like deca either but it is a great drug if used correctly.. i also hold alot of water on it and when i was younger didnt mind running it in the winter but now i just stick to test eq and winny.. occasionally i sub the eq for trn.. This combo hets me big and hard with next to o bloat

 

[djdizzy]

thanks bro !

I weight lift because of looks... not because I want to be a bodybuilder or be a strong man, I don't give a fuck about those two things lol ! I rather have a beach body than looking like any pros out there

I'm sure a lot of men are on the same boat as me. so advice is to never touch deca, it fucked with me mentaly man ! I always have strong jaws but deca totaly turned my face into a fatty

I think this is a little to general to be a blanket statement. I too am just going for looks. In a 7 month blast and cruise I put on 22lbs of lean muscle and lost 2 lbs of fat in the process Started at 14.4% BF and ended at 12.2%. I was less bloated than my previous test only cycle by simply by adding proviron and aromasin and keeping my diet in check.

I much prefer to slowly gain the weight than put on a bunch of fat and have to work it off after the fact. Deca is by far one of my favorites. Even running it in my current cut cycle with no bloat but running it a low dose.

250 test
200 tren
150 deca
50 winny
50 proviron

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[bodybuilder8806]

The moon face is definitely something I hate, NPP isn't quite as bad at moderate doses for most. If you strictly want to cut out the Deca then something like Tren or EQ are great alternatives depending on the goal.

 

[raw33man]

Did you run an AI and either caber or prami on cycle?

Yes I did !

Didn't really help with the bloat, caber helped the dick department just a little bit !

No more deca for me... I will from now on run steroids that put on less weight but all real muscle, I rather gain 4 pounds of real muscle and lose 1 pound on trt...

now everyone at the gym is wondering how I lost 12 13 pounds in 4 5 weeks lol

 

[lostin760]

Do you have a shitty diet?

 

[Sepjuice1]

I like deca,just not the puffiness look i get with it.

 

[maldorf]

I always much preferred EQ to Deca. To me EQ was like Deca without all the bloating. EQ was all lean gains and no bloat, tons of veins everywhere.

 

[frogger]

F@ck.. Didn't realize deca would ad so much bloat. I just added a small amount 200 mg every 5 days with 200 mg test and 4 Ed rips. I have allot of injuries and I hear it helps with some joint pain. For me looking good and most important is recovery from training.

 

[bodybuilder8806]

F@ck.. Didn't realize deca would ad so much bloat. I just added a small amount 200 mg every 5 days with 200 mg test and 4 Ed rips. I have allot of injuries and I hear it helps with some joint pain. For me looking good and most important is recovery from training.

You might not even notice much bloating at a low dosage ~200mg/week. 100-200mg / week would be fine for what you're using it for.

 

[summersgold]

In the first place, there is no way you are going to put on 25 lbs. of muscle with Deca. It is well known to be a slow gainer. There is no way you can put on 25 lbs. of muscle in a short time with any steroid. It is mostly water gain and the more androgenic a steroid is the more water gain you will get. Anadrol is famous for this. In the Oct.,2009 issue of Mus. Dev. mag., Anadrol was featured in an article by Seth Roberts. Quote: "Anadrol has a reputation for dramatic size and strength gains, however it is well known that these gains tend to disappear once the drug is discontinued." " This is likely due to a large degree of water retention brought on through inhibition of 11-beta hydroxylase, which would explain the bloating and high blood pressure that most people report while being on this drug."

In the Sept.,2010 issue of Mus. Dev. Mag. , nandrolone is also profiled by Seth Roberts. There is no mention of nandrolone causing water retention. He says " The major drawbacks to nandrolone are its reduced androgenic activity and it is a potent stimulator of red blood cell production."

That describes my experience with nandrolone in a number of cycles over the past 6 years. I have never experienced any water retention and only lose a couple of lbs. back.

There are some people who don't respond well to anabolic steroids and should never take them in the first place.

 

[SugarFree]

Who wouldve guessed theres water retention with deca usage.... You were already on a cycle (TRT) and you still gained 10 good pounds from adding deca and your complaining?

Personally I dont see any point of taking deca over NPP anymore. Same compound and results without the bloat. Also a quicker recovery with the shorter esters.

 

[TODouble2]

NPP for the win

 

[Ehren]

Raw33...ever tried Deca with TRT test, 100-150mg a week? If not, you may find it better. Way better

If you cut your Test dose down to true TRT levels 100-150mg, add in a LIGHT AI and keep carbs moderate, you may love Deca. It's just that Deca+Estrogen is bad. As with Tren, run the same high dose with an equal amount of Test and Sides City. Run Tren with low test and feel like a God.

That said, NPP is better, true. Seems more androgenic, better strength and less bloat. No reason to use Deca if you can get NPP.

I've yet to find ONE Anabolic/Androgen that I like less than Test. Anything is better as long as the lowest possible dose of Test is in the system.

Test seems to bringing out the worst aspects steroid!

 

[frogger]

You might not even notice much bloating at a low dosage ~200mg/week. 100-200mg / week would be fine for what you're using it for.

Cool.... Thanx bud

 

[raw33man]

In the first place, there is no way you are going to put on 25 lbs. of muscle with Deca. It is well known to be a slow gainer. There is no way you can put on 25 lbs. of muscle in a short time with any steroid. It is mostly water gain and the more androgenic a steroid is the more water gain you will get. Anadrol is famous for this. In the Oct.,2009 issue of Mus. Dev. mag., Anadrol was featured in an article by Seth Roberts. Quote: "Anadrol has a reputation for dramatic size and strength gains, however it is well known that these gains tend to disappear once the drug is discontinued." " This is likely due to a large degree of water retention brought on through inhibition of 11-beta hydroxylase, which would explain the bloating and high blood pressure that most people report while being on this drug."

In the Sept.,2010 issue of Mus. Dev. Mag. , nandrolone is also profiled by Seth Roberts. There is no mention of nandrolone causing water retention. He says " The major drawbacks to nandrolone are its reduced androgenic activity and it is a potent stimulator of red blood cell production."

That describes my experience with nandrolone in a number of cycles over the past 6 years. I have never experienced any water retention and only lose a couple of lbs. back.

There are some people who don't respond well to anabolic steroids and should never take them in the first place.

broski, why don't you pay attention to my 2 posts that I made ?

Ofcourse I know that 25 pounds was not muscle, that's the reason why I said Deca sucks.. people look at the scale and become happy because they gain 20 25 pounds but 70% of that is water

 

[thebigguy84]

put on 25 pounds with deca... Looked like shit, moon face, deca dick, bloated like there aint no tomorrow

I lost 15 pounds 5 6 weeks after coming off deca, was on TRT... kept 10 but it wasn't worth it in my opinion

Maybe NPP would have been a better choice for you ???