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It's pretty clear now that most people do best on minimal test, high tren (I've even heard of guys dropping test and just using HCG or Masteron with fantastic results).
Made me wonder why not with deca/NPP.... similar issue of both excess e2 and prolactin doubling up in the body.
And just in general. The more I read the more I feel test should be at absolute minimum, enough to keep you in the 800 or so ng/dl range for optimal health. I like the addition of a DHT, masteron or proviron, for cognitive and sexual benefits as well as a year round base.
But the muscle building portion, IMO, should be handled by a deca, tren, superdrol etc. Stuff that's going to be a good deal more anabolic without jacking up your estrogen levels.... why do you even want high dose test if taking one of the most powerful steroids ever like Superdrol? If you blast/cruise at regular intervals, not just when funds are available, you should maintain just fine over the years.
I'm proposing that test should be purely for maintaining male health, not used as an anabolic when there are far better ones. A DHT should be the main year-round drug as it will likely prevent the need for an AI and also keep DHT receptors saturated instead of allowing DHN (in the case of Deca) to bind to them in the brain/penis (another forgotten route via which Deca/tren Dick seems to occur).
Something like
100mg Test/200 Masteron for a cruise
100mg Test/400 masteron/400 NPP for a blast
I have read of some people doing this and even ditching the test all together during the blast. I say still keep a minimal amount of test in there for bodily functions but the Masteron/Proviron seem to be what will do everything from keeping bloat to a minimum, to keeping libido sky high, to keeping mood and overall drive elevated. The Anabolic (Nandrolone and Tren really seem to be the kings) will do its job of muscle growth.
It's been done on other forums, not sure if anyone here does it this way and would like to chime in with opinions, both good and bad? My main point is that I see Masteron/Proviron as providing all of the benefits that people want out of test, and Tren/Deca/Superdrol etc. as providing a far more anabolic environment. Test to me is becoming more of just a therapeutic thing like taking a multi-vitamin, not something to blast.
Made me wonder why not with deca/NPP.... similar issue of both excess e2 and prolactin doubling up in the body.
And just in general. The more I read the more I feel test should be at absolute minimum, enough to keep you in the 800 or so ng/dl range for optimal health. I like the addition of a DHT, masteron or proviron, for cognitive and sexual benefits as well as a year round base.
But the muscle building portion, IMO, should be handled by a deca, tren, superdrol etc. Stuff that's going to be a good deal more anabolic without jacking up your estrogen levels.... why do you even want high dose test if taking one of the most powerful steroids ever like Superdrol? If you blast/cruise at regular intervals, not just when funds are available, you should maintain just fine over the years.
I'm proposing that test should be purely for maintaining male health, not used as an anabolic when there are far better ones. A DHT should be the main year-round drug as it will likely prevent the need for an AI and also keep DHT receptors saturated instead of allowing DHN (in the case of Deca) to bind to them in the brain/penis (another forgotten route via which Deca/tren Dick seems to occur).
Something like
100mg Test/200 Masteron for a cruise
100mg Test/400 masteron/400 NPP for a blast
I have read of some people doing this and even ditching the test all together during the blast. I say still keep a minimal amount of test in there for bodily functions but the Masteron/Proviron seem to be what will do everything from keeping bloat to a minimum, to keeping libido sky high, to keeping mood and overall drive elevated. The Anabolic (Nandrolone and Tren really seem to be the kings) will do its job of muscle growth.
It's been done on other forums, not sure if anyone here does it this way and would like to chime in with opinions, both good and bad? My main point is that I see Masteron/Proviron as providing all of the benefits that people want out of test, and Tren/Deca/Superdrol etc. as providing a far more anabolic environment. Test to me is becoming more of just a therapeutic thing like taking a multi-vitamin, not something to blast.