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anyone use IGF des? comparable to LR3?

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thinking about trying it for the first time...some have said it's garbage but talked to a good friend of mine who's been competing for 11 years and he said he actually likes it better than lr3! I usually take his word for it but I've always yielded excellent results from good ol lr3....may stick to the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". but the way he talked sparked some interest
 
LR3 - long life
DES - short life

LR3 - 60 Min Before workout
DES - During Workout, or right before workout

LR3 - SubQ
DES - IM

They are both mostly systematic but DES is better for local effects

most people do like DES more, and it's cheaper ! DES is also 10times more stronger
 
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just a quick thought I use my DES subq not IM and I still get wicked pumps and vascularity that's pretty insane. so bad I had a guy talking shit about me in the locker room to a friend of mine. I am precontest and pretty lean now though. but the great thing is I'm only on 1/2 cup of carbs at meal one all day, and I don't train till after meal 4.
 
just a quick thought I use my DES subq not IM and I still get wicked pumps and vascularity that's pretty insane. so bad I had a guy talking shit about me in the locker room to a friend of mine. I am precontest and pretty lean now though. but the great thing is I'm only on 1/2 cup of carbs at meal one all day, and I don't train till after meal 4.

a guy talking shit on ur crazy pumps and vascularity? nah he just jelly lol :cool:
 
just a quick thought I use my DES subq not IM and I still get wicked pumps and vascularity that's pretty insane. so bad I had a guy talking shit about me in the locker room to a friend of mine. I am precontest and pretty lean now though. but the great thing is I'm only on 1/2 cup of carbs at meal one all day, and I don't train till after meal 4.

How was someone talking shit ? OH that dude's on steroids thingy ?
 
I'm on my first vial of des and am liking it pretty good. Pumps, vascularity and striations look sick
 
DES IGF?

I've just recently used IGF-1LR3 at 40mcgs in 10mcgs intervals through out the day, and the results were mind blowing. By the end of my 3rd week I not only looked like I'd been back in the gym for at least 3 to 5 months, I had the strength as tho I'd been training for that long as well!!

Anyway, my question is how many mcgs of the Des would you recommend takin on train days?? Anybody?? Thanks.
 
I've just recently used IGF-1LR3 at 40mcgs in 10mcgs intervals through out the day, and the results were mind blowing. By the end of my 3rd week I not only looked like I'd been back in the gym for at least 3 to 5 months, I had the strength as tho I'd been training for that long as well!!

Anyway, my question is how many mcgs of the Des would you recommend takin on train days?? Anybody?? Thanks.

whats your weight and bodyfat? Otherwise i would be arbitrarily throwing numbers out. Actually i will still be throwing arbitrary numbers out=-)

I am between 235-245 and i now use 100mcg.
 
Do what I did. Start at 60 and go from there. You will know if 60 is enough the first time. Just dont be an idiot like me and go up to 120. Too f'n much.
 

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