HRT for 30 years or longer?

[brasco]

Hi,
I am reading for few days already posts.
I am quite old on this web but posting very little, started around 2001 here.

I am not sure how this TRT works, do you have some idea how the things will look after 10/15/30 year of TRT?
I mean older man have problems with prostate, liver, kidneys, and so on.
I am 42YO and did 4 cycles in my whole life, started at 29YO first, did only 1 cycle per year, did clomid thru all the cycle and nolva at the end, 1000mg was total AS(deca/primo,sustanon), gained good, life was wonderful.

10 years later I am in trouble, things are not like they should be,not in the gym, not in the bed, not at the working place, I have no energy, when more stress come I get depression.

I saw an urologist, we did some blood test, everything was fine but the T was to low, he proposed me TRT, I refused and he give me yombine tabs,

And it is so difficult to accept that things go down.
I am thinking to do HRT but I am not sure how the things will look 10 years later.

I saw an urologist, we did some blood test, everything was fine but the T was to low, he proposed me TRT, I refused and he give me yombine tabs, it was fine for few weeks but somehow the body does not respond an

Can you guys just let me know who of you it is on TRT for more then 20 years?
I need to go, I will edit/continue the post

 

[lhouay]

I don't get this post
So what are you saying!!! The Doc recommended TRT for you; but instead you refused and asked for Yohimbine pills:banghead:

Let me ask you this:

YOU WOULD RATHER LIVE WITH ALL THE SYMPTOMS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED

("things are not like they should be, not in the gym, not in the bed, not at the working place, I have no energy, when more stress come I get depression"
I can add:
Loss of muscle mass/strength
Higher fat distribution
Loss of bone density
Effects on cholesterol metabolism......)

THAN ACCEPT YOUR DOCTOR'S RECOMMENDATION AND BE DONE WITH IT?

It seems to me that the question you should be asking yourself is:
CAN I LIVE FEELING LIKE SHIT, EVERYDAY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE?

 

[biffnbash]

I hear your concerns man. 30-40 years of artificial hormones....and this generation are the guinea pigs, many unknowns for sure...

There is a wealth of info on here and the web, I suggest you start searching and educate your self. Dose protocols and limiting the number of drugs you require to be healthly and are key IMO

 

[brasco]

To be more clear

I refused for the moment, 15 Dec I have another visit
My concern it is how long a man can go on TRT without getting in big trouble?
This is quite new thing.
Why people do not use Primobolan which by my knowledge it is having the less side effects, because of availability, price?

I study several threads here and most of you are doing 100/200mg of test, adding HCG and arimidex, this looks to me the most common TRT and most safe so far, speaking in general terms.

I will definitely try some HGH, HCG, arimidex, then test blood, if it doesn't work I will inject some Primobolan, 200mg for start, after few weeks check my blood to see where I am.
I refused the doc TRT because he even did not know what kind of Test he want to inject, HCG and arimidex where unknown to him.

So, do I let myself injected without informing myself what are the best options here?, and as I read in several posts, same for me;, estrogen levels where not checked.
Of course I need to spend more time on this and read some more articles.

I hope I am more clear now
Brasco

Of course IGF 1 as well will be added, I took this even in my AS cycles and it worked well

 

[buck]

no one knows what decades of TRT will do good or bad really. but look at what you are looking at if you don't go that route. things could decline more from where you are now. there are no guarantees.

 

[cardealer]

Been on HRT 6 years now,still blast 2 x yearly but never over 700mg weekly for eight weeks,Do 20mgs propinate daily and bloods have never looked better also do 3-5 iu HGH daily.

 

[cardealer]

By the way 59 years old.

 

[brasco]

Thanks,

Thanks cardealer
do you notice some differences?
I mean does the body react the same after 6 years of TRT?
Your blood test change a lot in this 6years??
are you adding something vitamins or more Test?

Thanks a lot for your input,
Brasco

 

[cardealer]

Everthings good feel 20 and look mid 40's.Bloods great inc cholesterol levels.kidney function 77,alt and ast in normal levels,test 1050-1100.Blast usually primo and test always 20 daily.

 

[pesty4077]

True HRT is 100 MG of test every 2 weeks and only if you have low Test levels. Your blood work determines that. If you are seeing a specialist who cares about your health, he will keep a close eye on things. Things can be done healthy this way. Read this:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...96102-older-guy-stay-healthy-live-longer.html

I posted this for older lifters too taking more then what the normal range is:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...forum/106406-all-older-lifters-using-aas.html

 

[nwiron]

True HRT is 100 MG of test every 2 weeks and only if you have low Test levels. Your blood work determines that. If you are seeing a specialist who cares about your health, he will keep a close eye on things. Things can be done healthy this way. Read this:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...96102-older-guy-stay-healthy-live-longer.html

I posted this for older lifters too taking more then what the normal range is:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...forum/106406-all-older-lifters-using-aas.html

^^Do not agree with that post. I have found 100mgs per week of Test C to put me right smack dab in the middle, aroun 600ndl. I would not want to cut that in half with 50mgs /wk.

NW

 

[gauge22]

cardealer

Subq ED?

I am on 1/2 ml (100mg) weekly. But I am thinking about trying out subq eod instead.

g22

 

[pesty4077]

^^Do not agree with that post. I have found 100mgs per week of Test C to put me right smack dab in the middle, aroun 600ndl. I would not want to cut that in half with 50mgs /wk.

NW

There is other things that will raise your Test levels naturally. Most Doctors that care about your health will give you a round, balanced approach with nutrition and other things. Stress will also kill your test levels. So, it is not that cut and dry, they have to find the underlining problem that is causing the low test levels. That is why they start low, to minimize the negative effects of HRT.

 

[gauge22]

Since it was brought up..how do you reduce stress? Or are we talking about reducing the side effects of stress. ie: cortisol.

My dr said my cortisol was extremely high.

Any thoughts there?

 

[chemical engineer]

Have a healthy life style and embrace life. It's quality of life not quantity!

 

[MaineGuy]

True HRT is 100 MG of test every 2 weeks and only if you have low Test levels. Your blood work determines that. If you are seeing a specialist who cares about your health, he will keep a close eye on things. Things can be done healthy this way. Read this:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...96102-older-guy-stay-healthy-live-longer.html

I posted this for older lifters too taking more then what the normal range is:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...forum/106406-all-older-lifters-using-aas.html

Not the way to do it. This will just put your hormones in roller coaster mode, which is not good. You will peak then crash. 100mg/week is more the protocol.

 

[brasco]

good

MaineGuy,
thanks for post, still reading the threads from emeric, really good INFO.
Brasco

 

[MaineGuy]

MaineGuy,
thanks for post, still reading the threads from emeric, really good INFO.
Brasco

brasco,
I actually inject twice per week with slin pin in my quads. I like this better than before when I was injecting with a 25g into my glutes.

I think between 100 and 200mgs/week is what most people take for TRT. Some will be on the low end of that dosage, some will be on the high end. It depends on your body, and what you want out of it. I prefer to stay a little on the higher side of the 300-1100ng/dl, mostly because I feel good there. I have done a lot of research also on TRT. I chose it because my natty levels were a little low and for the anti-aging/health aspect of it. There are many studies out there showing low T may be the cause of cardiovascular problem and many other health problems. High Estrogen may be the cause of many prostate issues. There are other studies that say differently. It will be up to you what you believe and what you want.

 

[brasco]

I will have to do it also, I need to make my blod test, for T, IGF, GH, to see where I am.
probably I will try with GH and IGF first, just to give a try maybe it will make an difference, if not 100mg test.
Thanks for inf,
Brasco

 

[Unmoto]

Brasco, I'd first like to say good luck to you in finding the solution to your issue. Second my friend is 44 and has total T of 300 natural. Now that he is on TRT, he is in the 800 range. His injects are once a week. The injects once every two weeks had him on an emotional roller coaster ride.