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Old 10-11-2017, 06:36 AM
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Stopping trt/aas for good

Hey guys, it's been years since I've posted on here. I've been using aas for around 7 years, 6 of them blast/cruise/trt. I stopped the b/c about a year ago and have been hitting 200mg cyp/week since. Lately I'm reconsidering my trt/aas usage and want to stop it for good. My interest has shifted from bodybuilding/powerlifting to mixed martial arts. At my height (5'9") it is a massive disadvantage to weigh 220 lbs. The guys I train with who are my weight class have about 4-8 inches on me and no less than 2 inch reach. I also noticed that in the 8 weeks I stopped all compounds to dupe my doctor into giving me a script that my anxiety had pretty much disappeared, not that I have a load of it to begin with. That was the nail in the coffin. Anyway, I'm aware of cashouts exit. I plan on doing something along those lines titrating my doses after blood work as needed. The reason why I'm posting this is to basically see if anybody has experience with years on nonstop and quitting. My biggest fear is the mental side effects like lack of concentration, aggression, libido etc, but mainly concentration. I work in emergency medicine and cannot fuck up. I'll think about going back to the trt when I'm done with mma or when totally necessary otherwise, but I'd like to hear any experience you or someone you know has had with stopping aas/trt. Cheers
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:58 AM
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How old are you??
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:17 AM
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:19 AM
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People have done it before.

Nobody can tell you how you will react and if your system will bounce back.
Guve it a try, and see how it goes. Use hcg/nolva/clomid or whatever you prefer..

Ride it out, and hopefully you will feel OK. You can push trough alot if only you have the right mindset.

If it doesnt work, id say minimum 6 months after pct is done, consider trt at lowe dose...
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:20 AM
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A friend of mine started his recovery two years ago and a year later he was still pretty big/shredded. He'll obviously never be 230 shredded but he said it was rough between 6-12 weeks. He struggled with the loss of mass the most. I'm not addicted to my muscle mass so I won't freak out losing the weight. If I'm 220 now, I'll probably be 190-200 a year from now. He's still 200-210. I want to fight at 185 anyway. I'd have to quit lifting for months to get down there, which I don't want to do.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:11 AM
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I've been doing a lot of research into stopping as well. 3 years of doc monitored trt. Doc advises me to just stop as you have done. After 8 weeks it sounds like you're doing fantastic. Are you going to monitor bloods throughout?

Cutting and competiting shortly after can be brutal. I know where you're coming from on that. I've rolled bjj, wrestled, and boxed most of my life. I'm glad to hear you're doing so well with the cut and with coming off simultaneously. I can't imagine doing both at the same time.

Tbh I think training consistently in your sport will help keep your mind sharp. iME I'm much more focused and goal oriented when training for an upcoming match over only training with weights. That's just me but, the mind is a powerful thing. Definitely let us know how it progresses!! I may take my docs advice and go the route you are. Haven't 100% decided.
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Hey guys, it's been years since I've posted on here. I've been using aas for around 7 years, 6 of them blast/cruise/trt. I stopped the b/c about a year ago and have been hitting 200mg cyp/week since. Lately I'm reconsidering my trt/aas usage and want to stop it for good. My interest has shifted from bodybuilding/powerlifting to mixed martial arts. At my height (5'9") it is a massive disadvantage to weigh 220 lbs. The guys I train with who are my weight class have about 4-8 inches on me and no less than 2 inch reach. I also noticed that in the 8 weeks I stopped all compounds to dupe my doctor into giving me a script that my anxiety had pretty much disappeared, not that I have a load of it to begin with. That was the nail in the coffin. Anyway, I'm aware of cashouts exit. I plan on doing something along those lines titrating my doses after blood work as needed. The reason why I'm posting this is to basically see if anybody has experience with years on nonstop and quitting. My biggest fear is the mental side effects like lack of concentration, aggression, libido etc, but mainly concentration. I work in emergency medicine and cannot fuck up. I'll think about going back to the trt when I'm done with mma or when totally necessary otherwise, but I'd like to hear any experience you or someone you know has had with stopping aas/trt. Cheers
so can you be in MMA and on trt or is that a no no? if you can did you consider dropping to 100mg a week? seems like doing that and your change in training style and diet you would drop some weight, I came off everything after being on for awhile, my levels were low, tt 200, ft would always come between 2-4, I did clomid off and on for a long time, levels did come up some, but even with them being higher I was feeling worse, no drive/motivation,low energy, all this was over about a 5 year period, I finally went on trt, but I am older than you, so maybe you have a better chance to bounce back, if you haven't done so, I would start hcg now if I was you.
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I've been doing a lot of research into stopping as well. 3 years of doc monitored trt. Doc advises me to just stop as you have done. After 8 weeks it sounds like you're doing fantastic. Are you going to monitor bloods throughout?

Cutting and competiting shortly after can be brutal. I know where you're coming from on that. I've rolled bjj, wrestled, and boxed most of my life. I'm glad to hear you're doing so well with the cut and with coming off simultaneously. I can't imagine doing both at the same time.

Tbh I think training consistently in your sport will help keep your mind sharp. iME I'm much more focused and goal oriented when training for an upcoming match over only training with weights. That's just me but, the mind is a powerful thing. Definitely let us know how it progresses!! I may take my docs advice and go the route you are. Haven't 100% decided.

Why stop TRT?
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:14 AM
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I've been doing a lot of research into stopping as well. 3 years of doc monitored trt. Doc advises me to just stop as you have done. After 8 weeks it sounds like you're doing fantastic. Are you going to monitor bloods throughout?

Cutting and competiting shortly after can be brutal. I know where you're coming from on that. I've rolled bjj, wrestled, and boxed most of my life. I'm glad to hear you're doing so well with the cut and with coming off simultaneously. I can't imagine doing both at the same time.

Tbh I think training consistently in your sport will help keep your mind sharp. iME I'm much more focused and goal oriented when training for an upcoming match over only training with weights. That's just me but, the mind is a powerful thing. Definitely let us know how it progresses!! I may take my docs advice and go the route you are. Haven't 100% decided.
Thanks man I will definitely keep everyone posted on my progress. I'm still very early on so I'm only feeling less full. I'm not on here all the time but I certainly won't forget to come back and keep everyone posted. Just gotta keep my eyes on the road!
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