Talk Live To IFBB Professional BodyBuilders And Athletes About Steroids, Nutrition And Training
©ALL CONTENT OF THIS WEBSITE IS COPYRIGHTED AND CANNOT BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE ADMINISTRATORS CONSENT 2002-2018
Automatic Translations (Powered by Google, Microsoft& Apertium):
Arabic Bulgarian Catalan Chinese Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Finnish French German Greek Haitian Creole Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Indonesian Italian Japanese Korean Latvian Lithuanian Norwegian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swedish Taiwanese Thai Turkish Ukrainian Vietnamese

Talk Live To IFBB Professional BodyBuilders And Athletes About Steroids, Nutrition And Training  

Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products
Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products
Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products
Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products
Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products
Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products
Cheapest Supplements Guaranteed         Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products


©ALL CONTENT OF THIS WEBSITE IS COPYRIGHTED AND CANNOT BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE ADMINISTRATORS CONSENT 2002-2018
Go Back   Professional Muscle > Female Fitness & Bodybuilding > Female Forum
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription           Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription           Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription           Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS           CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS
CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS           CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS
CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS           CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS
CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS           CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS
CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS           CHEAP and PURE BULK SUPPLEMENTS
PM
Facebook
PM
Youtube
PM Mobile App
(Android)
PM
Pinterest
PM
Twitter
Like Tree11Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-17-2012, 06:13 AM
Gunsmith's Avatar
Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,926
Armidex vs Nolvadex for ladys??

Ok ladys , asking a question for a friend.

She has access to legitimate Arimidex for free and was wondering if it can be used in place of Nolvadex as pert of her contest prep.

I know its much stronger and i know how it works for guys but not sure if the desried effect would be the same for a woman.

I informed her that its far more toxic than nolvadex as far as tanking your cholosterol.

My advise is to just buy the nolvadex and go with what you know but she has gotten bunk stuff the last couple times she ordered it.

do / can women take armidex?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-17-2012, 08:09 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
From what I understand it is better for woman to take nolva because it is a SERM, whereas Arimidex is an AI. A SERM will only block estrogen from binding to receptors opposed to having your body stop the production of estrogen. I'd like to hear what the FBB's have to say regarding this?

If I were her I'd get Nolva.
Gunsmith and Krob like this.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-17-2012, 09:45 AM
Gunsmith's Avatar
Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,926
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthrogeekuconn View Post
From what I understand it is better for woman to take nolva because it is a SERM, whereas Arimidex is an AI. A SERM will only block estrogen from binding to receptors opposed to having your body stop the production of estrogen. I'd like to hear what the FBB's have to say regarding this?

If I were her I'd get Nolva.
I knew the A-dex totaly wiped ut the estrogen rather than just binding the recptor but wasent sure how that worked for a woman. I know that even on high dose test when estrogen is cut off in men it causes major issues with libido
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-17-2012, 11:07 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunsmith View Post
I knew the A-dex totaly wiped ut the estrogen rather than just binding the recptor but wasent sure how that worked for a woman. I know that even on high dose test when estrogen is cut off in men it causes major issues with libido
Yeah I personally would not mess with it. Doing Nolva messes with lady parts bad enough.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-17-2012, 11:32 AM
Flex2019's Avatar
Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,745

Awards Showcase

Quote:
Originally Posted by anthrogeekuconn View Post
From what I understand it is better for woman to take nolva because it is a SERM, whereas Arimidex is an AI. A SERM will only block estrogen from binding to receptors opposed to having your body stop the production of estrogen. I'd like to hear what the FBB's have to say regarding this?

If I were her I'd get Nolva.

This is partially correct. An AI like Arimidex doesn't stop the production of estrogen by the ovaries, it only blocks the aromatase enzyme (which converts excess androgens into estrogen). Women using testosterone can benefit from Arimidex since they will have excess estrogen due to the same conversion process as men, but it won't do anything about natural estrogen production. A SERM like Nolvadex is the only way to block the actual effects of estrogen in a female.
mas1derful and Krob like this.
__________________
-LBA SQUAD-
"Protein of the Gods"
For pricing/information: [email protected]
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-17-2012, 11:39 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flex2019 View Post
This is partially correct. An AI like Arimidex doesn't stop the production of estrogen by the ovaries, it only blocks the aromatase enzyme (which converts excess androgens into estrogen). Women using testosterone can benefit from Arimidex since they will have excess estrogen due to the same conversion process as men, but it won't do anything about natural estrogen production. A SERM like Nolvadex is the only way to block the actual effects of estrogen in a female.
Thanks for the info Flex!
Krob likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-25-2012, 09:12 AM
Newbie Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 13
Could have sworn I saw something awhile back when I was researching A-dex vs Letro that one of the benefits of A-dex is that it actually doesn't mess up your blood lipid profile nearly as much as most AIs.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 02-25-2012, 03:24 PM
Gunsmith's Avatar
Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,926
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigswol21 View Post
Could have sworn I saw something awhile back when I was researching A-dex vs Letro that one of the benefits of A-dex is that it actually doesn't mess up your blood lipid profile nearly as much as most AIs.
A-dex may not be as bad as Letro but it's awefull for messing up your lipids !! I have blood work to prove it single digit HDL!!!

I believe you are thinking about Aromasin (exemestane) , IRS not as bad as arimadex or letro

Nolvadex is actualy know to help raise HDL
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 01:35 PM
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 867
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthrogeekuconn View Post
Yeah I personally would not mess with it. Doing Nolva messes with lady parts bad enough.
Can u elaborate a little on the messing up the "lady parts"...my girl has been asking me about it lately....
__________________
"Ya cant polish a turd..."
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2012, 09:12 PM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
Just sent you a pm

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
__________________
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what other people say you cannot do.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2012, 05:28 PM
GeauxDATY's Avatar
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Beach
Posts: 464
Two questions:

1) What are the positive and negative side effects for women using Nolva?

2)What dose is recommended for women?
__________________
Laissez les bons temps rouler!!!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-08-2012, 02:43 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
Positive:
Decrease in water retention
It can make it easier for women to lose body fat in legs, hips, ect.
Negative:
Change in mood- depression, anxiety, moodiness
Cramps
Loss of period
Irregular period
Spotting between periods
Increase risk of Uterine cancer in women who are predisposed to Uterine cancer.
Bone pain
constipation
coughing
hot flashes
muscle pain
nausea
tiredness
vaginal discharge, or vaginal dryness

The long term sides from using this recreationally are not known, women who use this and want to stay fertile or have histories with reproductive issues should be extremey careful.
This should be run at the last 6-8 weeks of prep. Should not be used for durations longer than 8 weeks at a time. Dose should be split in half and take in AM and PM. Taper up dose to 20 mgs a day, and be sure to taper dose down slowly to avoid possible rebound.
Gunsmith and Krob like this.
__________________
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what other people say you cannot do.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-08-2012, 03:31 AM
GeauxDATY's Avatar
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Beach
Posts: 464
^^^Thank you very much Anthrogeekuconn!!
__________________
Laissez les bons temps rouler!!!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-08-2012, 11:20 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
No prob
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2012, 02:33 PM
thebigguy84's Avatar
Kilo Klub Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE
Posts: 2,575

Awards Showcase

This is useful information I def will tell lady friend what I have learned.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2012, 05:38 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigguy84 View Post
This is useful information I def will tell lady friend what I have learned.
Like I said no problem, but you guys need to try and get these ladies to join the board here! We need more ladies!!!! It's a damn sausage party around here!
MarineWifey, Krob, MsLegs and 1 others like this.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2012, 06:32 AM
Gunsmith's Avatar
Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,926
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthrogeekuconn View Post
Like I said no problem, but you guys need to try and get these ladies to join the board here! We need more ladies!!!! It's a damn sausage party around here!
I've tried to get several lady's to join , for some reason women seem very hesitant to joint forums at all

I wanted my wife to just as maybe some inspiration but that's was a no go
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2012, 08:11 AM
anthrogeekuconn's Avatar
IFBB PRO / DOUBLE Featured Member / Kilo Klub
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunsmith View Post
I've tried to get several lady's to join , for some reason women seem very hesitant to joint forums at all

I wanted my wife to just as maybe some inspiration but that's was a no go
Well thanks for the effort!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 04-14-2012, 06:40 AM
halfstack's Avatar
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 121
Here's what I know. Arimidex and Nolvadex are clearly both used to reduce estrogen, if not eliminate it completely.

Arimidex stops the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in the female body while Nolvadex blocks estrogen from binding.

Blocking estrogen from binding can increase osteoporosis. Something to think about when deciding how long you want to be on these.

In any circumstance, it seems best to try to keep a female body as close to normal when producing estrogen for as long as possible.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-2012, 11:32 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 200
Arimidex used by women

This is interesting, in that I do understand arimidex stops the conversion of testosterone to E2. We guys use it as part of TRT and while running cycles with high high doses of test.

I understand the developement of arimidex or its labled use is to lower estrogen levels in women suffering from breast cancer. Apparently lowering estrogen or maybe just E2 is very important in the treatment.

So if its function is only to keep testosterone from converting to E2 how is that such an important breast cancer treatment drug. It cannot be used alone because there are certainly other means of estrogen production in women. Is it used in conjunction with other Anti E drugs like exemastane.

So it seems that it would not have that dramatic of an affect on lowering a womans E2 levels simply because there is not that much testosterone present in the first place.

It actually seems like a great idea since if a woman adds test she is likely to aromatize some of that or a lot of that to E2 and I cannot see that being a good thing. Maybe not as bad as it is for a man but it still not a good thing.

As far as using it as something to lower a womans Estrogen I can see how it would not be the right product. But if a woman chooses use an AAS that aromatizes then I can see how a small amount of arimidex or anastrozal would be a good idea.

Anybody able to ad to this with some more knowlage than I.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


           

   Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription     How To Do Injections, Injection Instructions     

            

           

           

           

           

           

           

All times are GMT +10. The time now is 12:02 PM.

 
Multilingual forum supported by vBET Translator 3.10.1
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1 Copyright ProfessionalMuscle.com 2002-2018

©ALL CONTENT OF THIS WEBSITE IS COPYRIGHTED AND CANNOT BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE ADMINISTRATORS CONSENT 2002-2018
How To Use Synthol How To Do Injections
Buy Synthol Buy Synthol
Buy steroids at Ivitamins Steroids discussion board
How To Use Steroids
vbPLUS