Finally made an order

[samjackson]

I decided it's finally time to do my first cycle.
I've been ghosting on a couple forums for probably 9 years.

I am deathly anemic because of 3 stomach surgeries I had 6 years ago, I don't absorb any iron. I have to go in every 6 weeks for an iron injection or my hemoglobin levels tank and I die. I got behind last spring so my lifting suffered a lot. In july I got caught up and decided to get serious. The test should help my anemia too !
I like Ronnie Rowlands theories so I've been doing slingshot trainging for the last 6 months getting back to my plateau.


I've always been a hardgainer... just because I never ate enough. I'm 34yrs old and 5'11.
With a 2300 calorie diet I'm usually 185-190 lbs. Which is what I was down to in July I had never been over 202lbs even back in my college lifting days.
I've been shooting for 3000 calories a day eating clean all week and cheating on the weekends. I'm only at 250 grams of protein now, so I'll have to increase that starting next week. Last week I weighed in an 208, i haven't done cardio in 3 years,

Test E will be 500/wk in 2 – 250 doses
Hcg 2500 will be every other day for 2 weeks
clomid 50 mgs twice per day for 4 weeks.
nolvadex 20 mgs per day for 4 weeks …....
I've got the pcts on hand and E should be here next week.

 

[Incognito1]

Might be worth trying to up your food intake. If your a hard gainer you will need more than 3k calories. Especially at 5'11

 

[E-Volve]

why do you need the hcg,clomid, and nolva for a simple test only cycle?

 

[hugemax]

why do you need the hcg,clomid, and nolva for a simple test only cycle?

Im sure he read up on Pct and ancilliaries and doesnt want to take any chances.

 

[samjackson]

Lol

I might still want to have kids someday.. so I'm definitely doing the pct

 

[hcfreak110]

Diet bro, big clean calories means big body! The more you eat and good training give good results.

 

[scrapping_irish]

Woahh dude thats wayyy to much hcg for andingle dose, seriously thats a great way to permanently shut down your hpta. Hcg should strictly be used on cycle only dosed from250-500ius 2x per week. I have never have needed more than 300ius 2xper week and ive taken quite a bit mor test than 500mg per week. Also not saying it will help your animea but eq drastically increases rbc production

 

[bigloot]

Good 4 u & good luck!

 

[whateverman]

Woahh dude thats wayyy to much hcg for andingle dose, seriously thats a great way to permanently shut down your hpta. Hcg should strictly be used on cycle only dosed from250-500ius 2x per week. I have never have needed more than 300ius 2xper week and ive taken quite a bit mor test than 500mg per week. Also not saying it will help your animea but eq drastically increases rbc production

Is HCG really necessary for a test only cycle? I've heard it both ways, which is why I ask.

 

[onynx4]

i would save the hcg clomid and nolva for post. it might negate to much of the effects of the test,which might hinder your gains. if you are to worried i would just do low low dose of nolva, save the rest for post. 500mg of test a wk is not tht much to run that many ancilleraries. i understand that u still want future kids, youll be ok with running some hcg and clomid post.

 

[onynx4]

you really dont have to run hcg, depending on the person. its not a high dose of test. like u said you are a hard gainer and you should betrying to use as much of the effects of test as possible

 

[MegatronsMuscle]

Anemia

My wife's brother has anemia due to Crohns disease and he is also on testosterone due to a little bit of wasting because of the problems associated with Crohns. The test will definitely help with the red blood cell count for sure. Be careful about using things like EQ since that will actually elevate RBC count WAY high and your blood tests will come back and your doctor may give you hell about why an anemic has a sky high RBC count.

It is my preference since it works well with my body, but consider using Aromasin (Exemestane) instead of Nolva. It works differently than Nolva and is better at crushing estrogen AND increasing natural test levels (to the high side of normal) than Nolva. Following is a link to one of the best threads on anti-e's on this site:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/beginners-forum/43658-using-antiestrogen.html

 

[scrapping_irish]

you really dont have to run hcg, depending on the person. its not a high dose of test. like u said you are a hard gainer and you should betrying to use as much of the effects of test as possible

You dont have to use hcg, but its cheep and it really makes you recovery faster by preserving your itt ( intra testicular testosterone). So honestly why wouldnt you wamt to take it?

 

[scrapping_irish]

i would save the hcg clomid and nolva for post. it might negate to much of the effects of the test,which might hinder your gains. if you are to worried i would just do low low dose of nolva, save the rest for post. 500mg of test a wk is not tht much to run that many ancilleraries. i understand that u still want future kids, youll be ok with running some hcg and clomid post.

Hcg is not ment to be run along with pct, hcg causes a high spike in test levels when taken it can cause a high spike is esteo as well, hcg should be used as part or your cycle protocol not your pct. Same gos for ai's, those are ment to keep estro levels normal while on, if you use them for pct you run the risk of crushing your estro and then having a major rebound, not worth the risk

 

[Racepicks]

Hcg is not ment to be run along with pct, hcg causes a high spike in test levels when taken it can cause a high spike is esteo as well, hcg should be used as part or your cycle protocol not your pct. Same gos for ai's, those are ment to keep estro levels normal while on, if you use them for pct you run the risk of crushing your estro and then having a major rebound, not worth the risk

"Bodybuilders use HCG either on cycle, in an effort to maintain testicular integrity during cycle administration, or after a cycle, to help restore homonal homeostasis more quickly. Both types of use are deemed effective when properly applied."

From William Llewellyn's ANABOLICS

 

[samjackson]

This is what I got from Ronnie Rowland about hcg for pct.
 When doing a FULL PCT it's a good plan to start HCG 1 week after your last testosterone injection. Test leaves the system in two weeks making week 21 a good time to start HCG injections. This is 1 week after final deload after having done a 20 week Slingshot cycle. This allows for an even clearance in hormonal levels, while initiating FSH and LH production to begin stimulating your testes to produce testosterone. Recovery doesn’t begin while you are on HCG but after you quit using HCG since your body will not release its own LH until the HCG gets out of your system.

 

[samjackson]

I'm not too concerned about the dr's questions about elevated hemoglobin levels. my problem is iron absorption.

 

[samjackson]

Well I've pinned 3 times now. 2 quads, 1 glute. Yesterdays was almost easy. I warmed the bottle up a bit before drawing it off.

I also went to gnc and added dark matter to my diet. I didn't have a post workout drink, I usually just had breakfast immediately. It has a horrible slimy texture, but I'm not taking it for the flavor lol. I am also trying c4 instead of the Neurocore I've been using.

My lifts have been pretty solid, Hack squats Monday with 800x7 felt light, same as squats with 400x3x3 I'm at 212 lbs and feel strong.. I'm sure this early in the cycle it's POS 51... Power of Suggestion ! But I'll take it !