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Old 06-11-2017, 12:31 AM
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Day 13 - 6/10/17

Pinned 2iu first thing this morning. Will pin another 1iu in the afternoon/evening. Am going to try switching to two 1.5 iu doses am/pm as mentioned above.

Hands have a slight tightness but I'm really feeling the tightness in my feet. Sleep seems to be improving too. Noticed I'm not waking up in the middle of the night anymore.
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Old 06-11-2017, 12:46 AM
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I'm new as well I'm just saying what I've read on some research


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Old 06-11-2017, 12:57 AM
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Here is what a good ramp up strategy would look like:
Weeks 1-4 = HGH 2 IUís one injection
Week 5 = HGH 2.5 IUís one injection
Week 6 = HGH 3.0 IUís split into two injections of 1.5 IUís each​

Week 7 = HGH 3.5 IUís split into two injections of 1.75 IUís each
And so forth until you reach your desired dose.

If at any point in this progression you begin to have unbearable bloating or joint pain, drop the dose by 25% and hold it at this lower dosage for a couple of weeks. If the sides subside, begin your progression back up toward your desired level. If the sides remain, lower your dose again and hold it at the lower level for two weeks before beginning the upward progression. This method will keep your HGH experience a good one and side free for the most part.

For a normal cycle of 5-8 months in length, injecting once or twice a day, 7 days a week should be fine. While there are studies that suggest that the suppression and negative feedback from exogenous HGH is short lived (about 4 hours from time of injection), there are no large-scale studies to indicate safety of everyday injections in long-term use. There are studies by anti-aging groups demonstrating that a day or two off per week is adequate to protect the pituitary and its triggers over long cycles. If your use of HGH becomes more a lifestyle than a single cycle, I would consider running it 5 on/2 off, or 6 on/ 1 off until such time as we have reliable data demonstrating long-term safety sans any degradation of your own output or the triggers initiating that output. I have personally experimented with just about every conceivable injection strategy I could devise. What I can say about the anti-aging doctorís supposition is that it panned out for me. I have recently come off of a 7-year run of HGH. I personally pull my own blood panels every six weeks routinely. After many months of being off of HGH, I now have the same profile I had before I began its use many years ago Ö high normal for my age. All levels and markers are perfectly normal.

Another option would be to run your HGH cycle everyday for the first two months to get your IGF-1 levels elevated quickly and to a level to assist you in an anabolic way, then drop back to 5 days a week. If you can tolerate the sides of higher doses, running the same weekly dose divided every other day is fine as well. The list goes on and frankly is an individual proposition. What seems to be of greatest import is that your weekly supplement of HGH is respectable enough to provide the desired benefit.


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Old 06-11-2017, 01:32 AM
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BB Dave Palumbo advise:

Hey Dave, I read one of your cycle recommendations of 2 iu's hgh per day with your aas. I also read a post by two moderators on this board that said you won't see any muscle gains from hgh unless you take 8-10 iu's per day. Is this true? I wouldn't ever consider taking hgh for anything other than muscle gain, that's way to expensive of a fat burner.

DP: Moderate doses of GH (2IU per day) taken for long periods (6 months) will yield good muscle gains and fat burning effects. It's a misnomer that you must take 6IU per day to grow new muscle. All you'll feel is bloated!


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Old 06-12-2017, 11:09 PM
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Thanks I'm going to switch things around and try an even split of 1.5 am/pm starting Sun 6/11
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Pinned 3iu. 1.5iu first thing this morning with another 1.5iu shot in the late afternoon.

Noticing increased sides with the higher dose over the past few days. My feet and ankles are noticeably swollen from the water retention. Experiencing some tightness in both hands and feet with some minor pain/discomfort localized in my right foot. Put on one of my watches that I haven't worn in a few weeks and noticed it was significantly tighter around my wrist.
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This morning there was a noticeable reduction in the swelling of my feet and ankles. As well as the pain I was experiencing in my right foot.

Pinned 1.5iu first thing this morning. Will be keeping an eye on my feet/ankles throughout the day and will report any changes.
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Prob should've just stayed at 2iu for the first month to get used to the sides


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Prob should've just stayed at 2iu for the first month to get used to the sides


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The sides don't bother me and the pain in my foot is gone. Am thinking it was from my shoes being so tight after my feet swelling from the water. Wore flip-flops all weekend and has been feeling fine since then.
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Day 16 - 6/13/17

Today marks the 2 week point. There has been no change in severity of sides. Still on 3iu ED (1.5iu split am/pm).
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:41 PM
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Day 17 and 18 - 6/14/17 - 6/15/17

Continuing dosing at 3iu ED (split am/pm). Noticing some CTS symptoms that are more pronounced in my left hand and less severe in my right. They felt worse when I first woke up but seemed to lessen throughout the day. Had difficulties securing the band on my watch and had trouble holding onto my toothbrush, kept dropping it this morning. Slight tingling in my fingers and tightness in my hands. Ankles/feet still swollen from the water retention. Have been sleeping like a rock but experiencing some minor fatigue throughout the day.

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Since not much changes on a day to day basis and I'm pretty much just repeating myself...I'm going to start posting every couple of days instead of ED.

DAY 19 - DAY 22 - 6/16/17 - 6/19/17

Continuing 3iu ED (split 1.5 am/pm). Sides have begun to decrease in severity to the point of being barely noticible. I'm guessing my body is getting used to the Exogenous GH. I'm almost done with this kit of the grey tops and will be switching to the Ansomone. Obviously will get Serum checked first and as long as that comes back satisfactorily, I'll continue and get IGF tested.

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So every diffrent hgh you run you will serum test beforehand.Very good thread on your experiences on hgh.I have ran quite a few different brands myself.At the end are you going to list the best to worst you have ran,would be very informative.
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:07 AM
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So every diffrent hgh you run you will serum test beforehand.Very good thread on your experiences on hgh.I have ran quite a few different brands myself.At the end are you going to list the best to worst you have ran,would be very informative.
Plan is to test serum at the start of each different brand and if results look good continue running them and get IGF-1 test after a few weeks. After I get through these generics plan on getting pharm grade to see how I test on that as like a "standard" to compare them to.
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Plan is to test serum at the start of each different brand and if results look good continue running them and get IGF-1 test after a few weeks. After I get through these generics plan on getting pharm grade to see how I test on that as like a "standard" to compare them to.
Very awesome will definitely be following.Great thread.

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Day 23 - Day 24 - 6/20/17 - 6/21/17

On day 20, I did my morning 1.5 iu shot as usual but for the pm shot ended up doing closer to 2iu (about 3.5iu total). When drawing the GH into the syringe there was slightly less than .5iu remaining in the vial so I just finished it off. All sides came back and increased in severity. The sides seem to effect my left side to a greater extent than my right. Noticible swelling in my left foot/ankle and CTS in left hand. Barely any to almost no swelling in right foot/ankle and right hand has some minor tightness only.

Day 21 will revert back to the usual 3iu, split am/pm, dosing regiment.
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Yellow tops not from a sponsor here so won't post the name. Supposedly overdosed at 12.5iu. Look very similar to the Elitropin but these are NOT from mex.
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