28 day body recomp with CJC-1295 DAC log

tr · Sep 3, 2012

After reading respectable board member JohnJuan1 thoughts and research experiences with his rats with CJC without DAC I've decided to give it a try myself since I've had bunch of them in my fridge.

Plan:
I'll start with 2mg DAC every Monday for the first 2 weeks, then depending on results increase to 3-4mg on week3 and 4-6mg on final week4. In addition to this will use 100mcg ipa/100mcg ghrp-2 combo morning pre cardio, post workout and before 2nd cardio session or weight training (if done). Towards the end (on 3th-4th week might increase peptides to 5-6 times a day as I was doing before this DAC trial, to get as much HGH in my system as possible). AAS - 50mg Test Cyp/50mg NPP/50mg Winny EOD, in the middle-towards the end of experment - switch to ED injection, migh even add Tren A at 50mg/day. Since I have my own bussiness I will back of a little bit from he work and this should be very detailed study how can body change in 28 days, when you only train, eat sleep and take right supps in rights dosages

Current stats:
26 y/o 6'1 225 7-8% bf

Goals:
In next 4 weeks drop 1-2% body fat add lean body mass and get better body composition

Diet:
MEAL 1
75g oatmeal
2 whole eggs
1 scoop whey
cottage cheese
1 medium apple
blend and drink

MEAL 2
100g brown rice
150g chicken
onion

MEAL 3
100g white rice
200g white fish
salad

MEAL 4
50g brown rice
200g white fish
salad

MEAL 5
200-250g lean beef
14g olive oil OR 150g potato (depending on hunger/fullness)
salad

MEAL 6
200g cottage cheese
32g nut butter

if hungry - MEAL 7
200g fish OR 200g cottage cheese

My diet is pretty high in carbs, but not very high in protein, since my body respose better to higher carbs. During this experiment - no cheats, only days when I'll take 1.5-2 (400-500g/day - added to morning, pre during and post workout meals) times more clean carbs, which will be probably once a week (depending when I'll need them)

Training:
Alternating high volume-low frequency WITH lower volume-higher frequency).
Last week was lower volume (9-12 sets per bp) and higher frequency (body part 2 times a week)
This week is higher volume (12-20 sets per bp) and lower frequency (body part 1 time/week)

Split:
Back / Abs
Chest / Calves
Quads / Abs
Shoulders / Traps
Arms / Calves
Hams / Abs
OFF

Cardio:
Start with every training day (exept legs and off day so - 5 times/week) - 30 minutes bike before Meal1, then depending on how I feel/look have another 30min PM session.

tr · Sep 3, 2012

Day 1

Pinned 2mg CJC DAC in the morning before 2nd pre training meal (also did 100 mcg ghrp-2 and 150mcg ipa pre and post workout) and OMG I've never felt so full during training I did back but my chest and my arms were so full that I could barely bent them. Looks like I've felt in love with this peptide from day 1

BACK / ABS training:

Shoulder grip pull ups 4 sets 10 10 10 9 reps (last two - weighted)
Bent over db rows 2 arms at the time 4 sets 12 12 10 10 reps
Hummer grip pulldowns 4 sets 15 12 10 20 reps
Shoulder grip seated pronated grip rows 3 sets 12 12 12 reps
Cable pullowers 3 sets 12 12 12 reps
18 sets total

Incline crunches 4 sets 25 reps each
Hanging leg raises 4 sets 12 reps each
Cable vrunches 4 sets 25 reps each
12 sets total

Cardio - 30 min bike AM

Tomorrow - 30 min AM cardio, 15 sets chest and 12 sets calves

9muscle9 · Sep 3, 2012

Couple of noob questions:

CJC-1295 DAC at 2mg, is that a shitload or not much?

Is it pinned IM or Sub-q?

Elvia1023 · Sep 3, 2012

Great log. I have been interested in this as JJ told me how good it is. I will defo get peptides soon and although I was recommended without dac I will probably be running something similar to you (cjc with dac and ghrp2). I will see how you find it so keep it going

Queefer · Sep 4, 2012

Elvia1023 said:
Great log. I have been interested in this as JJ told me how good it is. I will defo get peptides soon and although I was recommended without dac I will probably be running something similar to you (cjc with dac and ghrp2). I will see how you find it so keep it going

I'm lovin my cjc and ghrp6 combo.

tr · Sep 4, 2012

PINTOWIN said:
Couple of noob questions:

CJC-1295 DAC at 2mg, is that a shitload or not much?

Is it pinned IM or Sub-q?

Not that much I should say, JohnJuanb1 was using 7mg even as high as 11-13mg/week

Well if go by numbers 3mg of DAC would put hgh serum to 6.6ng/ml (0-2.9 is for normal people), 6mg - 9.6 etc, so at 2mg it will be somwhere 4-5ng/ml, that's 2-3ius rhgh

Elvia1023 said:
Great log. I have been interested in this as JJ told me how good it is. I will defo get peptides soon and although I was recommended without dac I will probably be running something similar to you (cjc with dac and ghrp2). I will see how you find it so keep it going

You should definately try the DAC version of cjc

Queefer said:
I'm lovin my cjc and ghrp6 combo.

I loved it too, but it gives me too much water retention and blood pressure issues

tr · Sep 5, 2012

Day 2

Notes: feeling very full all day long and strong in the gym, finger are numb and my joints are aching badly - thanks for CJC DAC

I'm also sleeping like a baby - 9-10 hours/night + 1-2 30-45min naps during the day

Was full of energy and did cardio twice (am and after 2nd workout) and worked out twice - chest/calves-noon and biceps/triceps-afternoon

AM - Cardio 30 min
Noon - Back / calves
Machine flies 4 sets
Flat db press 4 sets
Incline bb press 3 sets
Incline flies 4 sets
Seated calves 4 sets
Stanging calves 3 sets
Leg press calves 3 sets
Afternoon - biceps/triceps/cardio
Triceps cable pushdowns 4 sets
Cable curls 4 sets
Lying triceps db extentsions 4 sets
EZ bar preacher curls 4 sets
Dips 4 sets
Hummer curls on incline bench 4 sets
Overhead triceps cable extensions 1 rest pause set 20 (12 5 3)reps total
Machine preacher curls 1 rest pause set 20 (12 5 3)reps total
after workout - 30 min cardio

Diet - HIGH in carbs

Meals 1 to 3 was as usuall
then had cottage cheese and nuts for meal4
meal5 was beef and 1cup rice
meal6 (post arm and cardio workout):
- 1 cup cereal + 1 cup cottage cheese + 1 big pear + bcaa,leucine = blend and drink
- 75g brown rice and beef with mushrooms, onion
- 100g oatmeal, scoop of whey and tbsp of nut butter
so about 175g of carbs 75g of protein and 25g of fat 1300kcals

tr · Sep 7, 2012

Day 5

Did 30 min cardio AM and arms with another 30 min cardio post workout

Leaning out nicely while staying full (which wasn't in the past with such low carb and 1 hour cardio daily)

To accelerate even more fat loss changinf things a bit:

Wake up - 100mcg GHRP-2
30 min later - MEAL1 - 7oz steak and 2 whole eggs cooked in 12g butter, onion, mushrooms
2 hours later - 100mcg GHRP-2
Cardio 30 minutes
30 min later - MEAL2 - 2 scoops casein with 2 tbsp napb
100mcg GHRP-2 then 30 min later - MEAL3 - 2 cups brown rice, chicken
30min before workout - prew supps and 200mcg Ipamorelin
TRAIN AND CARDIO 30 min
after training - 100mcg GHRP-2 and 200mcg Ipamorelin combo
then eat MEAL4:
- 2 cups white rice with 7 oz lean beef
- 1 cup oatmeal+1egg+scoop whey protein - blend and cook a pancake and eat with topping - 1 peach+cottage cheese blended
150g carbs 90g protein 15g fat
100mcg GHRP-2 then 30 min later - MEAL5 - steak, sour cream, salad
100mcg GHRP-2 then 30 min later - MEAL6 - fish, salad

Also on:
2mg CJC1295 DAC / week
50mg test cyp/50mg masteron/50mg npp/50mg winny - ED

tr · Sep 17, 2012

This week is planned time off from the gym, but I want to get even more fat loos this week so decided to suffer a bit and start IF my schedule looks like this

6-7 AM 100mcg GHRP-2
9-10 AM 100mcg GHRP-2
12AM-1 PM 100mcg GHRP-2 and 150mcg Hexarelin
1 PM - Meal1:

1 1/2c oats,
1 scoop whey iso
1 cup cottage cheese
2 whole eggs
1 tbsp pb
1 apple

4 PM 100mcg GHRP-2 then Meal2:

2 cups white/brown rice mix
7-8oz chicken
1tbsp olive oil
salad, onion, peper

8 PM 150mcg Hexarelin then Meal3:

2 cups cottage cheese
1 cup greek yogurt
1 1/2 tbsp peanut butter
2oz mixed nuts
flax seeds

Snacks in feeding window: nuts, fruits, home made oatmeal cookies

Calories aren't high at this point in 2-2500kcal range with low protein 150-170g. DOn't think I need more than that if not training.

Elvia1023 · Sep 17, 2012

tr said:
This week is planned time off from the gym, but I want to get even more fat loos this week so decided to suffer a bit and start IF my schedule looks like this

6-7 AM 100mcg GHRP-2
9-10 AM 100mcg GHRP-2
12AM-1 PM 100mcg GHRP-2 and 150mcg Hexarelin
1 PM - Meal1:

1 1/2c oats,
1 scoop whey iso
1 cup cottage cheese
2 whole eggs
1 tbsp pb
1 apple

4 PM 100mcg GHRP-2 then Meal2:

2 cups white/brown rice mix
7-8oz chicken
1tbsp olive oil
salad, onion, peper

8 PM 150mcg Hexarelin then Meal3:

2 cups cottage cheese
1 cup greek yogurt
1 1/2 tbsp peanut butter
2oz mixed nuts
flax seeds

Snacks in feeding window: nuts, fruits, home made oatmeal cookies

Calories aren't high at this point in 2-2500kcal range with low protein 150-170g. DOn't think I need more than that if not training.

Sounds good. I am not training either due to injury so am cutting back alot too... probably need to cut back abit more than I am

Baxo · Sep 21, 2012

Aren't you going to use ECGC, horny goat weed and huperzine A?

tr · Sep 27, 2012

Elvia1023 said:
Sounds good. I am not training either due to injury so am cutting back alot too... probably need to cut back abit more than I am

I've changed my plan a bit, for this wek, but last week I cut out all starchy carbs, dropped a lot of water and looked my best by the end of the week, then did 5500cals with 800g of carbs load

Baxo said:
Aren't you going to use ECGC, horny goat weed and huperzine A?

No I am not using. What are they for?

tr · Sep 27, 2012

Changes this week:

- started lifting again

- gear: 600mg test/300mg NPP-week
4mg CJC DAC/week (love this)
3x100mcg GHRP-2/daily
2x150mcg Hexarelin/daily

- diet: was going to back to normal 6-8 daily meals, but I've felt in love too much with IF, not eating in the morning. having HUGE PWO meal and training fasted

And it is so simply to have only 4 meals with 4 protein choices (egg+dary meal pwo/whey meal/red meat meal/white meat meal) and then make changes (adding/removing carbs) on top - I think fat loss/muscle preserving is going WAY faster eating only 8 hours a day and then fasting for another 16 hours (I don't even have bcaa during this period, only sipping leucine/bcaa when training)

So for this week going to do this:

11am - PWO
6 whole eggs with 1 slice cheese, onions and mushrooms
10oz potatoes
2 apples
banana
1/2 cup cottage cheese
0.5 (16oz) liter milk

1pm -
1 scoop casein
1 scoop whey isolate
100g (before cooking) oatmeal
2 tbsp peanut butter
1 banana

4pm -
10oz lean beef or salmon
100g pasta or white rice (dry weight)**
Mushrooms, onion cooked in 1 tbsp olive oil

7pm -
10oz fish or chicken
100g brown rice (dr weight)**
Onion, peper cooked in 1 tbsp olive oil

3500kcals (with 4 carb meals)
3100kcals (with 3 carb meals)
2700kcals (with 2 carb meals)
2300kcals (with 1 carb meal)
1900kcals (with no starchy carb meals) - option on non training day, to accelerate fat loss even more
Consant on all day - Protein: 250g, Fats: 80-90g

** - no carbs in MEAL4 & MEAL3 on Mon, Sat (before & after cheat day)
no carbs in MEAL4 on Tue, Fri (2 days before and after cheat day)
carbs in all meals on Wed & Thu (after leg session and day before and after arm training)

* might go even as low as 1 carb meal on Sat and Mon before/after my cheat day

- training:

Back/Abs/Cardio
AM - Chest/Calves ; PM - Biceps/TrcepsCardio
AM - Cardio ; PM - Quads
Shoulders / Traps / Abs / Cardio
Biceps/Triceps/Cardio
Hams/Calves/Cardio
OFF - Cheat day

dudcki27 · Sep 27, 2012

Here is a copy and paste of what horny goat weed(and different supps) and ECGC's do to help while on cjc-1295 dac.

Now for its benefits to reach full potential, somatostatin needs to be inhibited because we have just seen it inhibits gh release, so by using a compound known as an Acetylcholineesterase inhibitor, now Acetylcholineesterase inhibits acetylcholine, and Acetylcholine inhibits somatostatin, so we want Acetylcholine in abundance, so by using an Acetylcholineesterase inhibitor, we allow acetylcholine to inhibit somatostatin, so increasing the amount of gh released when using CJC-1295DAC. Got it? Ok re read that last passage.
The best of these Acetylcholineesterase inhibitors and there are lots like..
Physostigmine
Neostigmine
Pyridostigmine
Ambenonium
Demarcarium
Rivastigmine
Phenanthrene derivatives
Galantamine
Piperidines
Donepezil, also known as E2020
Tacrine, also known as tetrahydroaminoacridine (THA')
Edrophonium
Huperzine A
Ladostigil,
Of the ones ive tried Huperzine A is the very best, and fairly cheap, now by adding ECGCs from green tea, as these ECGCs will transport the huperzine better so finding the receptor it needs the effects are even stronger on inhbiting the acetylcholineesterase.
Otherwise a really good one i used recently was Horny goat weed, its the only one i know that actualy increases acetylcholine as it inhibits the enzyme acetylcholinesterase.
Personally i rate this as my favourite peptide, you get nearly a constant surge in gh especialy if you add in say huperzine A, you get all the benefits of hgh, improved body composition, anabolic effects, injury recovery, improved skin, the full works, and at a very good price, far cheaper than real gh.

freakin_rican · Sep 28, 2012

It's going to be hard to tell if you transformed your body by the cjc or if it was more of your diet and training. I like to see experiments done where the training and eating is pretty much the same and they experiment with a peptide.

tr · Oct 7, 2012

freakin_rican said:
It's going to be hard to tell if you transformed your body by the cjc or if it was more of your diet and training. I like to see experiments done where the training and eating is pretty much the same and they experiment with a peptide.

You're probably right, but I want to get most out of CJC DAC I want to get ultra shredded and I think with IF, training fasted - it's the best way (I don't care if I will loose some muscle too).

Updates.
Yesterday was off and cheat day. Had 900-1000g carbs (bagels, oatmeal, ff ice cream, cookies, large snickers bar, some fruit) 200g protein (chicken leg, cottage cheese, fish, beef, cheese) ad 100g fat (from meats, some from cookies, cheese) so arround 5000-5500calories in 4 big meals.

Todays diet is low in carbs:

6 whole eggs, 1oz cheese, buttermilk
some cottage cheese, apple

2 scoops casein, 1oz nuts, apple

12oz fish, 2tbsp olive oil, salad

12oz beef, 1tbsp olive oil, salad

300g protein 50-100g carbs 100g fats 2500cals

tr · Oct 11, 2012

Last workout - back / shoulders / abs
trained fasted and took prew supp with methyltrienolone so had LOTS of energy

Db side laterials 5 sets 12 reps
Seated behing the neck press 5 sets 12-20 reps
Machine laterial raises 4 sets 12 reps superseted with
Cable front raises 4 sets 12 reps
Bent over db laterials 4 sets 12 reps (last set triple drop set)

Hummer grip pulldowns 4 sets 12-20 reps
Low pulley seated rows 4 sets 12 reps
Bent over db rows 4 sets 12 reps
Behind the neck lat pulldowns 4 sets 12 reps
Partial deadlift 4 sets 12 reps

Cable crunches 5 sets 20 reps
Decline sit ups 6 sets 20 reps
Leg raises 6 sets 12-15 reps

Went a little overbaord with 59 sets total but this was my secong back training session this week with more volume no failure kinda more of cardio workout and was done in 75 minutes

Meals (Refeed day):

PWO:
9 slices white bread (110g carbs)
14oz mixed white fish, sardines and beef
1oz full fat cheese
mushrooms, carrot, onion cooked in olive oil
2 apples

2nd meal:
100g oats
1 scoop whey
2 whole eggs
1 cup cottage cheese
1 banana
2 apples
2oz fat free ice cream

3rd meal
14oz baked potato
1 full chicken leg
salad

4th meal
10oz steak
2 cups pasta
salad

500g carbs 350g protein 110g fat 4500cals