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Noopept...experiences from a long term user

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Noopept is my favourite nootropic, and I've tried a lot of them! But I've noticed especially after using noopept daily for several months (a little less than half a year), a lot more good effects than simply the cognitive enhancing effect I sought after when first starting.

First I want to shortly discuss the cognitive effects I've noticed. Noopept for me seems to work on several different levels. It enhances my perception quite remarkably. Vision is most noticeable. It's like I not only notice details more, but the overall picture becomes clearer. This is hard to explain, but it's a clear effect when visiting crowded centres where a lot of peripheral motion is present. My mind seem to be able to keep track of the relative motions of all the people in my periphery, as well as the details I'm focusing on at the moment. When starting dosing I found myself thoroughly examining the patterns in the side-walk and walls. Here the detail is more pronounced.

Other senses are affected as well. My olfactory sense seems to be able to distinguish certain scents to a larger degree, it's almost like the resolution has been turned up. Hearing was one of the things that clearly was affected when starting, but it is not as noticeable after long term dosing for me. At the start though, it was bizarre.

I tried some high dose experiments (40-50mg) the first few days and I seriously thought I had gotten some strange psychedelic RC instead! When listening to music there were a clear 'distortion' and my mind felt almost a little bit tripping. But no hallucinations were present, strange indeed. After a while I came to the conclusion that what really was happening was I had acquired a more selective ability to focus. The apparent distortions of music were in fact the result of my attention rapidly shifting to the environment to my thoughts and back to the music and causing a noticeable difference in the experienced music (does this make sense to someone else?).

After a few days (and lowering of the dose) the strange psychedelic effects did lessen sharply and I were more confident that it was actually noopept (mushroom smell). A friend after trying for a few days were really surprised that it worked (he's always been sceptical to my claimed effects of racetams and other nootropics)! He did say that the experience was like the "cognitive improvements from LSD without the hallucinations".

When it comes to memory I really notice a strong effect. It's not like I have a constant feeling of my present memory capabilities, but memories I thought were long lost suddenly appears in a vivid fashion. Also, it's much easier to keep track of how I got to a certain place in my mind, my spatial memory is clearly affected. I haven't measured direct learning though, but I have all reasons to expect it is improved.

After some week something totally unexpected happened. It suddenly were A LOT easier to deal with people! To understand the revolution here you must understand that I've always had great problems with understanding other peoples irrational rules (social customs) and behaviours, and therefore I've had a hard time accepting them. Also, I've a really hard time memorizing faces as well as understanding speech, they don't come as naturally to me as for other people. This leads to not an insecurity with people (not in the sense of ordinary social anxiety/phobia) but an unwillingness to be in crowded areas and confrontations because I simply don't understand behaviours or rules I'm supposed to align to (it's like a mystery). This has all changed DRAMATICALLY. With long term dosage, I more and more feel like "I get" humans so to say. I no longer have the constant sense that I'm caught in a herd of faceless animals when visiting crowded places and I can hear what people are saying over phone.

Another surprising effect is on my feelings. I wouldn't really call noopept directly euphoric, but definitely indirectly. I can suddenly find myself crying of joy on the bus because of the wonders of the existence of the mind and the universe. It's like I see the world more of the machine that it is, and the gears really are wonderful. Also people - they too are quite euphoric (someone said MDMA-like affections which is understandable).

Another effect is the pleasure derived from music. Before I of course enjoyed music, but now it's on a different plane. Music (especially orchestral) can at times feel like a really good massage for the eardrums (hard to explain the feeling, but it's pleasurable). Also I feel like I hear all the instrument at the same time to a greater degree.

I've read of some peoples experience with a lowering of the libido, and to some degree I agree but not entirely. For me I can maybe find myself overall less sexual, but when aroused there's no difference (no impotence so to say). Also there's a very clear shift in how much time I spend looking at pretty women when outside for example. It's like I more understand and appreciate the beauty and sexuality of the attractive gender.

When it comes to dosing daily over a long time, I find that taking a break on weekends (that is 2/7 days a week) seems sufficient. Tolerance builds up for sure, but I'm not really of the opinion that this is a result of a lesser sensitivity to the drug as to a more accustomed mind. I do mostly take these breaks because the effect on Monday is profound (with the crying and all) and to limit a possible tolerance (although I think it would be perfectly usable daily without breaks).

There's one clear side effect though, and that is the irritability. I as many others, have noticed an irritability especially directed at other people. This I do not have great problems with, and it's definitely worth to trade off for everything else. I'm suspected it has something to do with an increased perception (real or not) of intelligence, and therefore an irritation directed at those less fortunate (at the beginning I could have some serious rants at stupidity - not any more). Another reason I suspect is that as the focus are deepened, the irritation spawns from the distractions (which often are people). I'm glad to say however that with daily dosage it's a lot easier to handle.

Over long time I find an increasing effect though (as opposed to pure tolerance). Sure, I don't notice the direct effects as much but it really lingers and builds up which is noticeable when I compare my mindset now to that of the time before starting this experiment. I completely believe that noopept is causing some lasting changes in the brain. I'm suspecting this has to do with some build-up of neurotrophic factors (NGF/BDNF) but I don't have some scientific basis for that claim. It would though both explain the build-up and lasting effects I notice, as well as the initial euphoria (often reported from cerebrolysin users). I sure as hell wouldn't say that it looses it's effect after time, but yes, it's clearly less noticeable. That makes sense to me though, since we mostly thrive on difference and not a static state or slow build-up.

A summary of all of this would be a general feeling of a greater existence. It's like me and my mind are more 'there' in the environment and the world as a whole. I live, feel and experience more so to say. If being drunk is a low level of existence (I actually feel like it is), this is the exact opposite.

Oh, the doses I've been taking is mostly (95%) one time daily (at morning) of ~30mg.

So, thought about this? Is someone else having profound long term effects and thinking that they have finally found THE nootropic for them?
 
Ive actually been using Noopept for the last two months on and off. I absolutely love this stuff. Really clears my mind and helps me focus a ton. I use it in the am with my coffee and it makes the first half of the day amazing instead of having that cloudy and hazy feeling I usually do.

I would certainly recommend this to everyone and anyone looking for that focus and truly awake feeling. Has helped me a ton. Thanks for sharing JJ as always!:headbang:
 
Ive actually been using Noopept for the last two months on and off. I absolutely love this stuff. Really clears my mind and helps me focus a ton. I use it in the am with my coffee and it makes the first half of the day amazing instead of having that cloudy and hazy feeling I usually do.

I would certainly recommend this to everyone and anyone looking for that focus and truly awake feeling. Has helped me a ton. Thanks for sharing JJ as always!:headbang:

The guy who wrote about it in the 1st post sounds like he has many issues other than finding a nootropic suited to him! But when I see a guy like you say it is good I listen. I have never tried anything like it but it sounds like it would be good for me.
 
The guy who wrote about it in the 1st post sounds like he has many issues other than finding a nootropic suited to him! But when I see a guy like you say it is good I listen. I have never tried anything like it but it sounds like it would be good for me.


With my job I am constantly under stress so it really helps me focus and clear my mind from that early morning fog. Between npept and DSIP I am getting better sleep and use the npept on mornings I still feel foggy.
 
I also enjoy phenylpiracetam. Haven't decided which one works best for me on those foggy mornings.
 
Ive actually been using Noopept for the last two months on and off. I absolutely love this stuff. Really clears my mind and helps me focus a ton. I use it in the am with my coffee and it makes the first half of the day amazing instead of having that cloudy and hazy feeling I usually do.

I would certainly recommend this to everyone and anyone looking for that focus and truly awake feeling. Has helped me a ton. Thanks for sharing JJ as always!:headbang:

What dosage are you using?
 
What dosage are you using?


For npept I use 10mgs. I've seen people use 10-40mgs per day. For me 10mgs is perfect. Some may say it's low, but I feel the results I want.
 
ECA stack has actually worked as a really good nootropic for me. I can feel myself thinking "faster". I don't even use it for workouts or fatloss anymore, I save it for when I need the brainpower boost
 
For npept I use 10mgs. I've seen people use 10-40mgs per day. For me 10mgs is perfect. Some may say it's low, but I feel the results I want.

Yeah ive been using 10 mgs 2-3 times a day and that dose seems to be the sweet spot for me. The first couple days i used it i went with the 30mg twice a day like i had read a lot of people using and it seemed like it had the opposite effects i was looking for. While i was alert, it was almost like my brain was over stimulated making my thought process cloudy.

I have also been experimenting with phenylpiracetam the last couple months too. Im finding that with the phenyl when using it consecutive days after 4 or 5 days it begins to lose its edge. Thats dosing it once in the morning at 100mgs. Though the first day or two the results are very noticeable in a good way.

So where im at now with researching nootropics is that i will continue to use the noopept on a daily basis sort of as a base, since tolerance doesnt really seem to be an issue so far and there is a lot of talk that the continuous use of it only increases the benefits. The phenyl i will save for days that i know i really need to be on top of my game as more of a boost.
 
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ECA stack has actually worked as a really good nootropic for me. I can feel myself thinking "faster". I don't even use it for workouts or fatloss anymore, I save it for when I need the brainpower boost

Dont get me wrong I feel great on ECA too, but i dont know if I would call it a nootropic effect. That faster thinking is synonymous with any good stimulant. Its not faster "speed-like" thinking that makes these nootropics useful, its more that for me my thinking is clearer making it faster through efficiency and better memory recall.
 
Dont get me wrong I feel great on ECA too, but i dont know if I would call it a nootropic effect. That faster thinking is synonymous with any good stimulant. Its not faster "speed-like" thinking that makes these nootropics useful, its more that for me my thinking is clearer making it faster through efficiency and better memory recall.

Sounds good.

Consuming anything with lots of flavonoids in will also improve concentration, memory and general mental performance. So the drugs are great but adding in certain foods will also give you a big boost plus they are great for health. Flavonoid rich fruits include blueberries and strawberries. 200g blueberries have been shown to increase performance by 11%. Dark chocolate is another great example and has been shown to improve endothelial function and increases plasma epicatechin concentrations in healthy adults.

Flavonoid-rich dark chocolate improves endoth... [J Am Coll Nutr. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
 
Noopept Effects: Introduction to the Short-Term & Long-Term Effects


Noopept is one of the most exciting and powerful Nootropics to hit the market in a long time. As a derivative member of the Racetam family, the supplement has a very low level of toxicity is very well-tolerated by almost everyone. It poses very significant benefits for multiple dimensions of cognition including enhanced learning, reasoning and memory. Since it is much more potent than most of the other Racetam supplements, you will only need to take a very small dose in order for it to be effective, making it very affordable as well. Many users and potential users wonder exactly how Noopept works, whether there are any side effects, and what the potential short-term and long-term benefits might be. The following article will take you through some of the most common Noopept effects and mechanisms of action.

How Noopept Works:
Most people who are thinking about buying Noopept start their investigation by focusing the effects of this supplement without understanding exactly how it work. While the exact mechanism of action is still not entirely understood, it does appear to function similarly to Piracetam (the original Nootropic) in many ways. Once ingested orally, the supplement is absorbed through the GI tract and then eventually crosses the blood-brain barrier. It reaches maximum concentrations within the brain in about 15 minutes, so it is also pretty fast acting.


Even when compared to Piracetam, this supplement has a very high oral bioavailability rate. Some studies indicate this may be as high as 90 percent. This means that almost all of the Noopept taken will end up in circulation, reaching the brain and optimizing your cognitive processes.

Once in the brain, Noopept reacts strongly with the Glutamatergic AMPA receptor sites. It binds to these receptors site and then helps to prevent the break down of the neurotransmitter Glutamate. While other basic Nootropics such as Piracetam only have weak effects on Glutamate, this supplement appears to exert a much stronger influence. As it binds to these sites, Glutamate is allowed to move between brain cells more easily, helping to increase a number of cognitive benefits including enhanced brain plasticity. Glutamate is the most prevalent neurotransmitter in the brain and when you increase the efficiency with which it works you can dramatically improve the communications and computations that occur between neurons.

Possible Noopept Side Effects:
There are very few, if any, observed negative side effects related to Noopept. In fact, the evidence indicates that it might help to prevent headaches, which is a side effect commonly associated with many of the Nootropics. This is possibly due to the fact that Noopept influences Glutamate more directly.

Since a very small dose is typically required to show effects, Noopept does not ordinarily show any kind of gastrointestinal distress or other stomach issues. There is, however, a small chance of developing an allergic reaction. Additionally, a small number of users have reported some irritability when using this supplement for an extended period of time.

If high doses are used, there are some other potential side effects. In such cases, it is possible that much less of the supplement will be able to be absorbed into the bloodstream and this could lead to nausea and stomach upset. Other reported high dose side effects are insomnia and elevated blood pressure.

Short-Term Noopept Effects:
There are also some significant short-term benefits associated with Noopept. A number of studies have shown it to be effective at improving memory, learning capacity, and recall. The intensity of these effects will vary from person to person, with some people being able to recall dreams vividly and others simply feeling much more productive with increased energy and motivation. Noopept also may help to increase focus, concentration, and attention span. This can further enhance the effects of increased memory and learning capacity, especially for students who are studying for long periods of time. Noopept is also great for verbal fluency and linguistic processing, an important effect for anyone in social settings who wants to be able to think on their feet more quickly.



Long-Term Noopept Effects:
There are also a number of potentially long-term effects associated with Noopept. In the area of memory, this supplement is thought to have a strong positive effect on the later stages of the memory process including memory consolidation and retrieval. Both of these are thought to be more critical in the area of long-term memory development as opposed to short-term working memory.

This supplement is also very neuroprotective in nature. Not only does it act as an anti-oxidant, helping to rid the brain of calcium and other toxins, but it can serve to help defend against other poisons like apoptosis in the neurons. It may even be able to reverse damage done due to excessive alcohol consumption. Some people use Noopept supplements for anti-aging benefits and to potentially reduce the effects of cognitive decline with age.

Noopept has also been shown to increase levels of Nerve Growth Factor (NGF) and Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF). The NGF is believed to be responsible for influencing the growth and survival of certain types of neurons, while BDNF also encourages specialization of new neurons and synapses. It is these developments, particularly the new synapses which are thought to be very important in long-term memory, overall intelligence, and cognitive health. It may also help to form new connections and improve the overall level of communication between both hemispheres of the brain. The positive effects of Noopept most certainly outweigh the negatives and you will find this an excellent addition to any brain supplement regimen.
 
Noopept and Learning: Noopept stimulates the release of certain neurotransmitters in the brain that are known to boost brain power when it comes to learning and memory. This is one of the reasons for which noopept is most sought-after. According to research and reviews, Noopept dramatically improves performance in all three areas of memory including formation, retrieval and restoration. When taking noopept, you will find it easier to recall new concepts learned as well as make associations with different concepts on several levels at once. If you often find yourself forgetting new information very shortly after hearing it for the first time, this supplement can boost levels of the Acetylcholine neurochemical which transmits signals between your different neurons. This results in better synapse plasticity which means your brain can form more connections and also improve reasoning and problem solving skills.
 
JJ or Eliva, have either of you guys taken this?
 
JJ or Eliva, have either of you guys taken this?

Hey renewlyf I know I am not them but just ordered some and was gonna post my research on it when I begin. Seems like a very promising product.
 
I love it - it's not a "feeling" so much as it's just a clearer mind. I have organized my office and shocked the hell out of my team and my closet shocking the wife. I honestly don't care if it's placebo effect or not - this and Selank have helped me tremendously.
You can't take it and start waiting for it to "kick in" - it's not like that. You go about your normal day and at some point you realize your feel more positive and organized and the things that normally stress you - you simply analyze and deal with.
 
Noopept sounds like I a perfect thing for finals week. I've been getting distracted and not focusing as well as I would like. I may have to give this a try and see if I can get a little boost in the brain power area.

G
 
I have been thinking about noopept for a while now. I'm just concerned with long term side effects.....I will have to research more.
 

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