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Best peptide or combo for fat loss

Marvin Martian

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What peptides seem to help facilitate fat-loss best? Nothing replaces diet and cardio - but I know that guys have always said gh really kept their metabolism high. I am too unsure of all the different gh out there and it really just doesn't seem like a wise investment, but at my age (40ish) I would like to try one of the peptide stacks. I don't mind a little water retention - because I wont be on forever and the water will drop.
 
I cant speak for all peptides but Im currently on cjc w dac, mk677 and taking 500mcg on frag pre fasted cardio and I have dropped some serious fat since starting this oct 1st..keep in mind i also cleaned my diet up bigtime..
 
I cant speak for all peptides but Im currently on cjc w dac, mk677 and taking 500mcg on frag pre fasted cardio and I have dropped some serious fat since starting this oct 1st..keep in mind i also cleaned my diet up bigtime..

I like this combo as well.
Also...
Did cjc no dac+ghrp2 with IGFL3 found that to be really good for fat loss, I was dieting and doing cardio as well.
 
cjc no dac and hexarilin/ghrp2 works the best, combine it with igf lr3
 
Like I said the other day I would not take igf lr3 with ghrp/ghrh


IGF-1 administration negates GHRPs & hinders GHRH's GH release

Effects of Recombinant Human Insulin-Like Growth Factor I Administration on Growth Hormone (GH) Secretion, Both Spontaneous and Stimulated by GH Releasing Hormone or Hexarelin, a Peptidyl GH Secretagogue, in Humans, E. Ghigo, J Clin Endocrinol Metab 84: 285–290, 1999

ABSTRACT

The negative feedback exerted by insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) on GH secretion occurs at the pituitary, as well as the hypothalamic level, via stimulation of SS (Somatostatin) and/or inhibition of GHRH release. In fact, recombinant human IGF-I (rhIGF-I) administration inhibits basal GH secretion, at least in fasted humans, though its effect on the GH response to GHRH is still controversial. GH secretagogues (GHS) are peptidyl and nonpeptidyl molecules that act on specific receptors at the pituitary and/or the hypothalamic level. Contrary to GHRH, the GH-releasing activity of GHS is strong, reproducible, and even partially refractory to inhibitory influences such as exogenous somatostatin.

We studied the effects of rhIGF-I administration (20 mg/kg sc at 0 min) on GH secretion, either spontaneous or stimulated by GHRH (2 mg/kg iv at + 180 min) or Hexarelin (HEX, 2.0 mg/kg iv at + 180 min), a GHS, in eight normal young women (age, mean 6 SEM, 28.3 +- 1.2 yr; body mass index, 20.1 +- 0.5 kg/m2). rhIGF-I administration increased IGF-I levels (peak vs. baseline: 420.3 +- 30.5 vs. 274.4 +- 25.3 mg/L, P , 0.05) within the physiological range from +120 to +300 min. No variation in glucose or insulin levels was recorded. rhIGF-I did not reduce spontaneous GH secretion [areas under curves (AUC)0–300 min 140.6 +- 66.3 vs. 114.6 +- 32.1 mg/L.h], whereas it inhibited the GH response to both GHRH (AUC180–300 min 447.7 +- 159.4 vs. 715.9 +- 104.3 mg/L.h, P , 0.05) and HEX (620.3 +- 110.4 vs. 1705.9 +- 328.9 mg/L.h, P , 0.03). The percent inhibitory effect of rhIGF-I on the GH response to GHRH (41.7 +- 12.8%) was lower than that on the response to HEX (57.7 +- 11.0%). In fact, the GHresponse toGHRHalone was clearly lower than that to HEX alone (P,0.05), whereas the GH responses to GHRH and HEX were similar after rhIGF-I.

Our findings show that the sc administration of low rhIGF-I doses inhibits the GH response to GHRH and, even more, that to HEX; whereas, at least in this experimental design in fed conditions, it does not modify the spontaneous GH secretion. Because GHS generally show partial refractoriness to inhibitory inputs, including exogenous somatostatin, the present results point toward a peculiar sensitivity of GHS to the negative feedback action of IGF-I.
 
if fatloss is your main goal then. id run ipamorelin and cjc dac. the ipamorelin wont increase your hunger like other ghrp's can.
 
I was wondering about that Igf hindering the cjc ghrp combo...seems I was correct in my thinking

Is 500mcg cjc dac to low of a dose ? Seems i ha seen better results with 100mcg cjc no dac/ghrp 3x daily

No thread hijack
 
Why do people still call it CJC no DAC? It is called Modified GRF 1-29. CJC1295 with DAC (drug affinity complex) is TOTALLY different.

For fatloss, multiple injections throughout the day. Pre-fasted AM cardio being the most important injection.


-Baseline
 
Why do people still call it CJC no DAC? It is called Modified GRF 1-29. CJC1295 with DAC (drug affinity complex) is TOTALLY different.




-Baseline

Purely for marketing reasons. It saves peptide companies a lot of e-mails asking for CJC no DAC from people that have no idea what mod grf is. You are totally correct though and cjc is actually an abriviation of the company's name who created DAC. It was just the easiest way to sell mod grf to the uninformed.

As to the original question I find from experience DAC is best for fat loss or recomp by far. Probably because I can get a much higher dose over the week as I can only object mod grf 2x on work days, 3 of I go to bed late. DAC will catch every natural pulse on top of your ghrp pulses and amplify them too as well as slightly raising base GH levels. Stacking with mk677 in my experience gives maximum results but you better eat damn clean and do cardio to keep bloat at bay. You can do a lot of cardio and reduce calls a bit and not worry about muscle loss on this stack and not lose muscle although you can drop fat on write high calories anyway. Don't do anything retarded like 2000 calories and an hours cardio ed though otherwise you will lose muscle fast even on this combo.
 
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Cjc no dac, ghrp2, HGH frag 176-191 .... Those 3 peps 3x a day..... Add some clen and t3 .... Bam Fat will melt off
 

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