Minimizing duration on HGH

[nothuman]

Curious what the majority here thinks.

What is everyone's thought on using a high dose of GH for 4-6 weeks at like 10-12iu ED? Too little time and all water gain? OR safer/more effective because it's out of your system faster than sayyyy 5iu for 3-6 months at a time? Assuming insulin is being used a few times a week around workouts.

 

[little slice]

id like to know as well.


also, how would you guys dose 6iu of rips a day if 10iu Novalin R is being taken 30 minutes pre-workout? (assuming the workout is mid-late afternoon)

3iu am + 3iu pre-bed?

 

[cardealer]

6 months on 2 off keeps me lean,3 ius pre workout

 

[TrinityD]

Too short of a time frame brother.
I wouldn't go below 8iu pharmacy grade for 12 to 14 weeks at the minimum.

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Little slice if you're using insulin, I would do a 3x a week or EOD large bolus shot of 12 to 15iu alongside the insulin preworkout. Make sure you know what the heck you're doing with the insulin though.

 

[little slice]

Too short of a time frame brother.
I wouldn't go below 8iu pharmacy grade for 12 to 14 weeks at the minimum.

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Little slice if you're using insulin, I would do a 3x a week or EOD large bolus shot of 12 to 15iu alongside the insulin preworkout. Make sure you know what the heck you're doing with the insulin though.

ive been taking insulin for about 1.5 years


so I should take the GH alongside the insulin 30 minutes pre-workout? what would the benefit of using that method be?

 

[ajdos]

I took GH for 2.5 yrs straight and went between 5-10 ius a day, never felt any difference related to length of time I was on it worked as well at the last day as it did the first month or so.
I liked it period.

 

[nothuman]

Too short of a time frame brother.
I wouldn't go below 8iu pharmacy grade for 12 to 14 weeks at the minimum.

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Little slice if you're using insulin, I would do a 3x a week or EOD large bolus shot of 12 to 15iu alongside the insulin preworkout. Make sure you know what the heck you're doing with the insulin though.

But...why? I know I am the topic creator asking the question but I am also no stranger to HGH and noticed it working right away. I feel like the whole "you need to use hgh for at least 6 months for it to work" idea is old forum logic that isn't backed by much. That being said, my mind could change with the right reasoning behind it.

Would love to hear an open minded debate.

 

[Knight9]

There's not much to debate. Duration is key...more so than dosage. It takes time to accumulate the tissue and the benefits keep coming. I wouldn't go off of it if I didn't have to. Just ramp up and down.

Just because you notice things quickly like water shifts, fullness, pumps, vascularity, and tightness/decreased bf doesn't mean that is all that is going on that is beneficial.

 

[nfernoo]

Isn't the six month plus stuff meant for hyperplasia/growth.

As far as fat loss. That's not my purpose for its use.

 

[Siren05]

I ran it for 1.5 years. 5 iu daily. I noticed a huge difference in CT when I split my doses morning and night. The CT became far worse!

 

[TrinityD]

There's not much to debate. Duration is key...more so than dosage. It takes time to accumulate the tissue and the benefits keep coming. I wouldn't go off of it if I didn't have to. Just ramp up and down.

Just because you notice things quickly like water shifts, fullness, pumps, vascularity, and tightness/decreased bf doesn't mean that is all that is going on that is beneficial.

This.
I can see why this dude has been featured member

 

[Growman]

Yeah the gains are subtle so if you are on it short amount of time it's not that you won't get any gains, they just won't accumulate to much. You really need at least 4 months in my opinion.

Littleslice, you definitely want the slim and the gh working at the same time. They are synergistic. Knight told me to pin my gh 15 min or so before my slin for my pre workout protocol and it's been very effective.

You can still pin it twice a day to help with fat loss but I would do the bulk of it with your slin.

 

[nothuman]

There's not much to debate. Duration is key...more so than dosage. It takes time to accumulate the tissue and the benefits keep coming. I wouldn't go off of it if I didn't have to. Just ramp up and down.

Just because you notice things quickly like water shifts, fullness, pumps, vascularity, and tightness/decreased bf doesn't mean that is all that is going on that is beneficial.

True...but many would argue AAS works best the first 4-8 weeks before gains stall. With HGH, many argue the reverse, that gains start after you have already been on long enough. I wonder what the difference is.

 

[Knight9]

True...but many would argue AAS works best the first 4-8 weeks before gains stall. With HGH, many argue the reverse, that gains start after you have already been on long enough. I wonder what the difference is.

Half lives of AAS and myostatin vs cumulative effects of GH(where there is no limiting factor really).

 

[PitbullTank]

Too short of a time frame brother.
I wouldn't go below 8iu pharmacy grade for 12 to 14 weeks at the minimum.
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10iu ed of huma/omnis for 12-14 weeks.... dam...thats an expensive run... not even talking huma/omnis but something like a genos would be 3 kits($~6-700/kit) per month for 3-4 months... OUCH on the wallet.... can't say i wouldn't like to try one day tho lol

 

[Rob S.]

10iu ed of huma/omnis for 12-14 weeks.... dam...thats an expensive run... not even talking huma/omnis but something like a genos would be 3 kits($~6-700/kit) per month for 3-4 months... OUCH on the wallet.... can't say i wouldn't like to try one day tho lol

With genos you mean genotropin?

Even 4iu's pharm grade GH will work wonders. Sure, 8iu would be better but i really believe 4iu is already a good dosage.

 

[TrinityD]

3iu of pharm grade is a good dose.
But not if it's for 12-14 weeks.

 

[little slice]

is doing 12iu pre-workout 3x a week alongside novalin R better than doing 5iu ED?





what benefit does dosing it pre-workout like that yield?

 

[nothuman]

is doing 12iu pre-workout 3x a week alongside novalin R better than doing 5iu ED?





what benefit does dosing it pre-workout like that yield?

GH and slin active at the same time = anabolism

 

[TrinityD]

^ this

also bolus injections with spikes in peak plasma levels cause things to happen
ie: test suspension