Good mass stack?

[sean70ss]

I am looking at doing my 1st peps for research for a mass gain. here is what it looks like.

ghrp-6 150 mcg 3 xed
cjc1295 w/o dac 200 mcg am and pm
500 ipam mcg ed

would mk-677 go in there to? any other ideas

 

[Elvia1023]

I am looking at doing my 1st peps for research for a mass gain. here is what it looks like.

ghrp-6 150 mcg 3 xed
cjc1295 w/o dac 200 mcg am and pm
500 ipam mcg ed

would mk-677 go in there to? any other ideas

You want to take cjc no dac with every ghrp-6 injection. Although I would personally go with...

CJC NO DAC at 5mg per week
MK-677 at 25mg every day

The MK-677 is the most important item in that stack and would be effective even if used a lone. At 25mg per day with a bulking diet you can expect a large amount of 3water retention, added strength and hopefully by the end of your cycle a few pounds of lean muscle added. What are you starting stats? I assume you haven't used aas?

 

[MooseKnuckles]

I have been using 25mg mk677 with huperzine A and like the results so far.

 

[Elvia1023]

You want to take cjc no dac with every ghrp-6 injection. Although I would personally go with...

CJC NO DAC at 5mg per week
MK-677 at 25mg every day

The MK-677 is the most important item in that stack and would be effective even if used a lone. At 25mg per day with a bulking diet you can expect a large amount of 3water retention, added strength and hopefully by the end of your cycle a few pounds of lean muscle added. What are you starting stats? I assume you haven't used aas?

I made a mistake in the above post. I was meant to write 5mg cjc with dac.

 

[nelynel]

Agreed

 

[jared_the_goon]

super dmz is banned now rite.

 

[Giants83]

super dmz is banned now rite.

What does sdmz have to do with his first pep cycle?

 

[syakirabilqis]

[lang=id]i think you just to learn more[/lang]

 

[sean70ss]

mass stack

You want to take cjc no dac with every ghrp-6 injection. Although I would personally go with...

CJC NO DAC at 5mg per week
MK-677 at 25mg every day

The MK-677 is the most important item in that stack and would be effective even if used a lone. At 25mg per day with a bulking diet you can expect a large amount of 3water retention, added strength and hopefully by the end of your cycle a few pounds of lean muscle added. What are you starting stats? I assume you haven't used aas?

I see so no Ipam. Yes have used aas 12 cycles under my belt. First time trying peps. I am 5'8" 186 8%-9% bf cruising on test right now. Have always done low dose cycles nothing crazy. Nice steady gains of lean muscle and hard work.

 

[johnjuanb1]

For mass, I would do this:

UPON WAKING, LATE MORNING/NOON, EARLY EVENING:
100mcg GHRP2 with 100mcg cjc no DAC
200mcg huperzine A

PREWORKOUT(with big carb meal):
30mcg IGF1-LR3 subQ
25mg tadalafil sublingual

POST WORKOUT(before big meal):
400mcg GHRP6

BEFORE BED:
25mg MK-677
10mg melatonin

 

[sean70ss]

For mass, I would do this:

UPON WAKING, LATE MORNING/NOON, EARLY EVENING:
100mcg GHRP2 with 100mcg cjc no DAC
200mcg huperzine A

PREWORKOUT(with big carb meal):
30mcg IGF1-LR3 subQ
25mg tadalafil sublingual

POST WORKOUT(before big meal):
400mcg GHRP6

BEFORE BED:
25mg MK-677
10mg melatonin

would you run tis stack as say a normal cycle? 12 weeks? appreciate the response!!

 

[johnjuanb1]

would you run tis stack as say a normal cycle? 12 weeks? appreciate the response!!

I never set in stone the length of time for a certain stack because as you run it you will find certain compounds work even better the more time you are on them, whereas other compounds seem to lose effectiveness. But, I think 12 weeks is a good plan.
What AAS are you going to run? If you don't use AAS I would consider adding LGD-4033, MK-2866(ostarine), and S-4 to get testosterone levels up.

 

[sean70ss]

stack

Right now I am cruising on 200mg of cyp per week. I could go either way with the peps or run aas. Really appreciate the advice thanks!!

 

[Elvia1023]

Right now I am cruising on 200mg of cyp per week. I could go either way with the peps or run aas. Really appreciate the advice thanks!!

Try the peps next time you blast. Adding in peps means you don't need to go higher with aas. Although if you want to see their effectiveness try them on a cruise. I always like to try new things/drugs when cruising on low test to best gauge their effectiveness.

 

[Knight9]

You want to take cjc no dac with every ghrp-6 injection. Although I would personally go with...

CJC NO DAC at 5mg per week
MK-677 at 25mg every day

The MK-677 is the most important item in that stack and would be effective even if used a lone. At 25mg per day with a bulking diet you can expect a large amount of 3water retention, added strength and hopefully by the end of your cycle a few pounds of lean muscle added. What are you starting stats? I assume you haven't used aas?

Why are you insistent on cjc no dac Injects paired with ghrp6..why not just have dac in the background 2x weekly?

For mass, I would do this:

UPON WAKING, LATE MORNING/NOON, EARLY EVENING:
100mcg GHRP2 with 100mcg cjc no DAC
200mcg huperzine A

PREWORKOUT(with big carb meal):
30mcg IGF1-LR3 subQ
25mg tadalafil sublingual

POST WORKOUT(before big meal):
400mcg GHRP6

BEFORE BED:
25mg MK-677
10mg melatonin

Why 10mg melatonin. Most people need a fraction of that.



And did RS ever qualify his statements with proof of why ghrp-6 is so great? Or was it just claims?

 

[Knight9]

The top post is what I mean by...were those just claims or did he cite where those are facts?

 

[johnjuanb1]

Why are you insistent on cjc no dac Injects paired with ghrp6..why not just have dac in the background 2x weekly?

Why 10mg melatonin. Most people need a fraction of that.



And did RS ever qualify his statements with proof of why ghrp-6 is so great? Or was it just claims?

I only chose 10mg melatonin because that was the dose used in a pubmed study I came across. I'll look for it.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Here's that pubmed study:

Melatonin stimulates growth hormone secretion through pathways other than the growth hormone-releasing hormone.
Randomized controlled trial
Valcavi R, et al. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1993.
Show full citation
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: There is evidence that melatonin plays a role in the regulation of GH secretion. The aim of this study was to investigate the neuroendocrine mechanisms by which melatonin modulates GH secretion. Thus we assessed the effect of oral melatonin on the GH responses to GHRH administration and compared the effects of melatonin with those of pyridostigmine, a cholinergic agonist drug which is likely to suppress hypothalamic somatostatin release.

DESIGN: The study consisted of four protocols carried out during the afternoon hours. Study 1: oral melatonin (10 mg) or placebo were administered 60 minutes prior to GHRH (100 micrograms i.v. bolus). Study 2: GHRH (100 micrograms i.v. bolus) or placebo were administered at 0 minutes; oral melatonin or placebo were given at 60 minutes and were followed by a second GHRH stimulus (100 micrograms i.v. bolus) at 120 minutes. Study 3: placebo; oral melatonin (10 mg); oral pyridostigmine (120 mg); melatonin (10 mg) plus pyridostigmine (120 mg) were administered on separate occasions. Study 4: placebo; oral melatonin (10 mg); oral pyridostigmine (120 mg); melatonin (10 mg) plus pyridostigmine (120 mg) were administered on separate occasions 60 minutes prior to a submaximal dose (3 micrograms i.v. bolus) of GHRH.

SUBJECTS: Four groups of eight normal male subjects, ages 22-35 years, were randomly assigned to each protocol.

MEASUREMENTS: Growth hormone was measured by RIA at 15-minute intervals.

RESULTS: Oral melatonin administration had a weak stimulatory effect on GH basal levels. Prior melatonin administration approximately doubled the GH release induced by supramaximal (100 micrograms) or submaximal (3 micrograms) doses of GHRH. Melatonin administration restored the GH response to a second GHRH challenge, given 120 minutes after a first GHRH i.v. bolus. The GH releasing effects of pyridostigmine, either alone or followed by GHRH, were greater than those of melatonin. However, the simultaneous administration of melatonin and pyridostigmine was not followed by any further enhancement of GH release, either in the absence or in the presence of exogenous GHRH.

CONCLUSIONS: Our data indicate that oral administration of melatonin to normal human males increases basal GH release and GH responsiveness to GHRH through the same pathways as pyridostigmine. Therefore it is likely that melatonin plays this facilitatory role at the hypothalamic level by inhibiting endogenous somatostatin release, although with a lower potency than pyridostigmine. The physiological role of melatonin in GH neuroregulation remains to be established.

 

[MooseKnuckles]

10mg of meletonin doesn't do that much for me personally, my doc actually had 10mg caps compounded at a pharmacy and I run 20mg before bed.

 

[jfrost89]

For mass, I would do this:

UPON WAKING, LATE MORNING/NOON, EARLY EVENING:
100mcg GHRP2 with 100mcg cjc no DAC
200mcg huperzine A

PREWORKOUT(with big carb meal):
30mcg IGF1-LR3 subQ
25mg tadalafil sublingual

POST WORKOUT(before big meal):
400mcg GHRP6

BEFORE BED:
25mg MK-677
10mg melatonin

Why 30mcg of lr3 subq not IM and why lr3 vs des?

I take it your doing ghrp/cjc 3xday what's the purpose of the 400mcg of ghrp post workout and is that with cjc or just ghrp?

Last question how or could slin be ran with this?