MK + GH + Humalog

[Big Dave Smith]

Hey guys. I've never tried insulin up till a week ago. My protocol was

preWO: stick GH, then 15min later the Humalog
postWO: Humalog

*Training is 4 days per week.

If I'm using GH every day (3 shots), will the MK still be able to do its job physiologically as well?

Will it blunt the MK?

Is there a way to incorporate leftover CJC w/DAC into the equation?





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[Kevinhy]

Purely speculation since I have no experience stacking the two, but I would imagine that the ghrelin receptor mediated effects like appetite would still be achieved, but the GH response would be blunted due to exogenous hormone. I think the only true way to determine the efficacy would be to get baseline bloods pre MK and then another round a few weeks/months into the course.

It is possible that the negative feedback loop would be undermined, or that the negative feedback from exogenous GH isn't analogous to say testosterone administration on endogenous production, but without testing there's no way to be certain.

 

[Big Dave Smith]

This was my initial assumption, blunting the GH response, but still getting the ghrelin release.


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[heavyhitter]

From research ive seen....as well as anecdotal evidence from people using gh and mk together...the exogenous GH doesnt seem to blunt the release of the natural Gh from the MK. The MK will send the signal to release regardless of exogenous GH. And you could probably throw the cjc in there...but i doubt it would do much as it acts similarly to the mk....ghrp would be a different story however

 

[ironceltic12]

I've heard of two different things happening combining mk and gh... You either turn into a water balloon OR its amazing and allows you to use less gh and save some cash with similar results. How has your experience been so far?

 

[HangingOn]

How much slin pre? Post?
Mk before bed?

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[Big Dave Smith]

I'm only a week in on the humalog, 4 days in on the MK.

Pre + Post Humalog @ 5iu (will go up to 7-10iu at some point)

PreWO GH- 2-3iu
Total GH per day- 3iu off days, 6iu training day

MK- 15mg at night before bed


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[RamboStallone]

GHRPs & MK677 work regardless of exogenous HGH or somatostatin (negative feedback) levels. So yes the MK677 and HGH will work fine and well together. However GHRH are useless in this situation while HGH is present so save the DAC for when HGH is not present in the system.

 

[Big Dave Smith]

Excellent. Thanks!


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[BigTex]

Hey guys. I've never tried insulin up till a week ago. My protocol was

preWO: stick GH, then 15min later the Humalog
postWO: Humalog

*Training is 4 days per week.

If I'm using GH every day (3 shots), will the MK still be able to do its job physiologically as well?

Will it blunt the MK?

Is there a way to incorporate leftover CJC w/DAC into the equation?
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Dave, have been doing what you are doing for a long time. Works very well. I about 6.g mg of MK677, 4 times a day (this helps avoid grogginess some). I was combining that with 4iu of GH/d but foudn I had to cut that down to 2iu (1iu morning and 1iu preworkout/bedtime) I also do the insulin (10iu) pre-workout along with 50mcg of IGF-1 Lr3. You could throw in some CJC but 1000mcg x 2 week but I really think after you add the Mk677 you will not need to. I get slight swelling in the fingers and wrist pain just from what I am doing.

 

[Elvia1023]

GHRPs & MK677 work regardless of exogenous HGH or somatostatin (negative feedback) levels. So yes the MK677 and HGH will work fine and well together. However GHRH are useless in this situation while HGH is present so save the DAC for when HGH is not present in the system.

x2

Just save the cjc-dac for when you come off the HGH. It's not even needed anyway with HGH and MK-677 in the equation.

I would stick with your 15mg dose and have it approx 3 hours pre bed or first thing in the morning. How is your sleep dosing it just before bed?

 

[ironceltic12]

Any updates on how this protocol is working, Dave?

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