Western biotech - Somastim (GH) and Somedin (IGF1-lr3 and IGF1-DES)

sciroxx-lab · Aug 20, 2016

Capin · Aug 21, 2016

I have use many ius of Karl's Somastims I can say unequivocally it's the best generic GH out there! I'm planning on trying his IGF with my next run of somas.

jfrost89 · Aug 21, 2016

Not to sound ignorant but what's the difference between peptide company igf and sciroxx igf?

1badmofo2 · Aug 21, 2016

Capin said:
I have use many ius of Karl's Somastims I can say unequivocally it's the best generic GH out there! I'm planning on trying his IGF with my next run of somas.

I am running Somastim 4 iu day and 25 mcg post workout days only of the igf1-lr3 and have never had results like this from 4 iu hgh and as quick as there coming.

1badmofo2 · Aug 21, 2016

jfrost89 said:
Not to sound ignorant but what's the difference between peptide company igf and sciroxx igf?

I will say this...I have run many peptide companies igf with no results at all.Honestly if Karl wouldn't have sent the igf as a gift I wouldn't have tried his because I didn't know that I was getting bunk from the peps just thought that's what results were,very minimal if any from past experiences.

Smack · Aug 21, 2016

1badmofo2 said:
I am running Somastim 4 iu day and 25 mcg post workout days only of the igf1-lr3 and have never had results like this from 4 iu hgh and as quick as there coming.

And you attribute these results to the HGH or the IGF?

jfrost89 · Aug 21, 2016

1badmofo2 said:
I will say this...I have run many peptide companies igf with no results at all.Honestly if Karl wouldn't have sent the igf as a gift I wouldn't have tried his because I didn't know that I was getting bunk from the peps just thought that's what results were,very minimal if any from past experiences.

I agree there is a lot of junk out there but I have had a few companies where I added igf to my gh and the effects were night and day, more fat loss, rounder muscles, stay pumped all day. I would love to try Karl's but it's hard for me to make myself pay 200$ for 1000mcg when I can get 3-4000mcg from a research company for that price. Now I'm like you if he sent me some to try and it was a dramatic difference from what I have I'd pay the difference. I mean hell I'm already spending a few hundred a month on gh just bc I want quality.

Smack · Aug 21, 2016

jfrost89 said:
I agree there is a lot of junk out there but I have had a few companies where I added igf to my gh and the effects were night and day, more fat loss, rounder muscles, stay pumped all day. I would love to try Karl's but it's hard for me to make myself pay 200$ for 1000mcg when I can get 3-4000mcg from a research company for that price. Now I'm like you if he sent me some to try and it was a dramatic difference from what I have I'd pay the difference. I mean hell I'm already spending a few hundred a month on gh just bc I want quality.

I mean yeah, I guess I would give it a try also if need be

pesty4077 · Aug 21, 2016

jfrost89 said:
I agree there is a lot of junk out there but I have had a few companies where I added igf to my gh and the effects were night and day, more fat loss, rounder muscles, stay pumped all day. I would love to try Karl's but it's hard for me to make myself pay 200$ for 1000mcg when I can get 3-4000mcg from a research company for that price. Now I'm like you if he sent me some to try and it was a dramatic difference from what I have I'd pay the difference. I mean hell I'm already spending a few hundred a month on gh just bc I want quality.

Take your chances then. I know most are junk. I rather pay more to make sure it is legit.

sciroxx-lab · Aug 21, 2016

We guarantee pharma grade quality, the product is manufactured in our facility inj a western country, adhering to real USP standards, we posted some lab tests from our quality control unit, the product is identical in its purity and potency (as concluded with bio assay tests - these test asses the actual activation of the IGF receptor) to the patented IGF1-lr3 by Repligen Swiss. Honestly I've never tested any other product in the market, and I assume that there are legit ones, but I may tell you what you may know - the "peptides companies" purchase all their offering in China, I'm getting almost every day quotes from such companies and I these internet dealers which are 2nd hand in the better case and usually 3rd or 4th hand and offer lower prices then our cost productions price, which should make us wonder ....

We do run a special 1+1 for PM members and you should check our reviews, so the price is quite competitive

GnastyMcnasty · Aug 21, 2016

jfrost89 said:
I agree there is a lot of junk out there but I have had a few companies where I added igf to my gh and the effects were night and day, more fat loss, rounder muscles, stay pumped all day. I would love to try Karl's but it's hard for me to make myself pay 200$ for 1000mcg when I can get 3-4000mcg from a research company for that price. Now I'm like you if he sent me some to try and it was a dramatic difference from what I have I'd pay the difference. I mean hell I'm already spending a few hundred a month on gh just bc I want quality.

:yeahthat:

Smack · Aug 22, 2016

pesty4077 said:
Take your chances then. I know most are junk. I rather pay more to make sure it is legit.

I guess the question here is this: How much more effective is Karl's LR3 compared to the average research company LR3?

Seems like guys around here usually take 50-100mcg LR3 but if 25mcg of Karl's LR3 is as effective as 100mcg RC LR3 then it would make sense to go with Karl...

Pesty what dose do you take? Have you tried other RC LR3? If so, what would you equate Karl's Lr3 to in terms of RC LR3? 25mcg Karl to 50mcg RC? 100mcg RC?

Thanks

sciroxx-lab · Aug 22, 2016

?!

I don't think even the junkiest member here would inject something that its purity not to mention content is not proven and tested.
These peptides interact with the immune system and has a tremendous effect on metabolism, to a danger extent *(hypoglycomeia is one xample)...
so I assume the quality issue is a main concern here

I offered and challenged any customer of mone to test the IGF1, and I'll help to finance even the competition tests if u like to

As mentioned along the thread we do offer 1+1 on the IGF1 and in addition bulk discounts, and always guarantee pharma quality, actually if u buy 5 kits or more the price drops to 76usd per kit which was formulated for proper usage with 200mcg vials. The formula also contain Acetic Acid and other excipients is proven tested matrix for optimal assimilation

jfrost89 · Aug 22, 2016

sciroxx-lab said:
?!

I don't think even the junkiest member here would inject something that its purity not to mention content is not proven and tested.
These peptides interact with the immune system and has a tremendous effect on metabolism, to a danger extent *(hypoglycomeia is one xample)...
so I assume the quality issue is a main concern here

I offered and challenged any customer of mone to test the IGF1, and I'll help to finance even the competition tests if u like to

As mentioned along the thread we do offer 1+1 on the IGF1 and in addition bulk discounts, and always guarantee pharma quality, actually if u buy 5 kits or more the price drops to 76usd per kit which was formulated for proper usage with 200mcg vials. The formula also contain Acetic Acid and other excipients is proven tested matrix for optimal assimilation

If you buy 5 kits they are 76$ a kit? You got me interested at that price.

eaglecall · Aug 22, 2016

As Sciroxx pointed out, every member should be worried about the quality and purity of peptides, even the junkiest member here. Unfortunately is not the case. I personally know several people, not necessarily members here, that will try anything just because somebody mentioned it at the locker room. We have a disaster in terms of health in this country. It is a catastrophe. Our corrupt, inaccessible health care system creates this irresponsible behavior on people to not care about their own health anymore and just do whatever google or youtube says. I am personally very involved in the bodybuilding community in Brazil for example, it is a complete different world. 180 degrees different. Over there the sport is taken as serious as any track and field athlete would take it here. All competitors are constantly tested and supervised by their doctors. Each individual has a trainer, doctor, nutritionist, massage therapist. And I am not talking about the top competitors. I am talking about EVERYBODY who wish to compete. Why? BECAUSE IS ACCESSIBLE. Is human. Is care for the people. It is a medical system that focus in the health and quality of life of the patient, NOT in profit for a pharmaceutical corporations.

Ok enough.

Now as far as Sciroxx IGF1-LR3, is makes perfect sense to pay more for something PROVEN to be top quality medication instead of being made in the crapper of a trailer. Yes, it is more expensive, but remember you will be using less because of its effectiveness. Less amount, equal less poisoning with chemicals while getting the desired benefits.

sciroxx-lab · Aug 22, 2016

Jfrost89 - I will be waiting eagerly for your feedback, it's actually 5+5 and u get this price (u pay 760 and for 5 kits get 10 kits=76 per kit), contact me for details

jfrost89 · Aug 22, 2016

sciroxx-lab said:
Jfrost89 - I will be waiting eagerly for your feedback, it's actually 5+5 and u get this price (u pay 760 and for 5 kits get 10 kits=76 per kit), contact me for details

760$ no thanks, I was interested at 5 for 380$

sciroxx-lab · Aug 23, 2016

Brother - no disrespect and I'll PM you right on, but this is an informative thread which is helpful for the members, so lets not turn it into "look for the best deal for the buck" thread.
And again said with much respect - if you're looking for "best" price then search on Alibaba for some shady chinese suppliers, we guarantee solid proven Western quality still for a fraction of the price it would be in the pharmacy,

jfrost89 · Aug 23, 2016

sciroxx-lab said:
Brother - no disrespect and I'll PM you right on, but this is an informative thread which is helpful for the members, so lets not turn it into "look for the best deal for the buck" thread.
And again said with much respect - if you're looking for "best" price then search on Alibaba for some shady chinese suppliers, we guarantee solid proven Western quality still for a fraction of the price it would be in the pharmacy,

I'm not looking for a deal you brought up bulk pricing and made it seem like it was 76$ a kit if you buy 5+ and I just said I was seriously considering giving it a try at that price. I have 4000mcg already I was just open to trying something different if it was that much better.

sciroxx-lab · Aug 23, 2016

No prob, I'm sorry if I confused you .... you like to test what u have in hands with a lab (a member here test products, participated and ran GH tests for the community) and test ours with them ?

I PMed you best deal anyhow, I'll be happy if you trial us and report back !