Mike's insulin protocol vs.Mutants Insulin protocol

[carterd]

Sup bros i know the the two protocols have some similarities
just wanted to know which protocol you like better and what were your
results with it.

 

[Saku39]

I'm not sure what Mike's insulin protocol is. I've used one similar to Mutant's and I liked it. Inform me on what Mike's protocol is please.

 

[Performance Based]

If you don't mind post both so we can actually discuss them. Too many protocols out there to keep straight in my head

 

[carterd]

Mutant's Insulin Protocal

 

[carterd]

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...77223-question-about-insulin.html#post1068093

 

[carterd]

ive posted them both mutants and mike arnolds protocol

 

[Stewie]

Mutant's Insulin Protocal

I do not want to post this on the open forums because there are too many idiot kids out there that will attempt this protocol in hopes of becoming an instant monster (which wont happen for them), and they will mess it up somehow. Maybe by being stupid, maybe by cutting corners, maybe by using cheap ingredients. Who knows? I don't need people hurting themselves, or not having good results, and them coming back and complaining. Even though they were the ones cutting corners!


Good thing he didn't wanted posted in the open forums

 

[Solo_]

Op, would you mind summarizing both please.

 

[Gunsmith]

it gives me ths shit just thinking about all those shakes !!

I think people way over complicate things

 

[sammy555]

Op, would you mind summarizing both please.

You need to read them really, both pre workout and rely in pre and intra workout nutrition. Carbs eaa, prot, creatine blah blah. I really like the look of mutants protocol but am still very early in the research stage

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[Waylanderxx]

I follow Mikes and use everything he suggests. Works great.

 

[discohornet]

I can't see how anyone could go wrong doing either protocol, assuming the user is advanced enough to not do harm.

I doubt at the end of a year that two identical twins would have dramatically different results following each of the protocols to a t.

Mike might disagree with me, and if so would like to read his response. I'll look for the bold text in this thread later and read it.

 

[Kaladryn]

Mutant's Insulin Protocal

I do not want to post this on the open forums because there are too many idiot kids out there that will attempt this protocol in hopes of becoming an instant monster (which wont happen for them), and they will mess it up somehow. Maybe by being stupid, maybe by cutting corners, maybe by using cheap ingredients. Who knows? I don't need people hurting themselves, or not having good results, and them coming back and complaining. Even though they were the ones cutting corners!


Good thing he didn't wanted posted in the open forums

Here is an example, lets say someone ate very little sugar, worked out hard, never used slin, and tried this protocol. Assuming a very low insulin resistance, 5iu of Novalog could put them down in 10 minutes, before they even consume their first shake.

Most people have very high insulin resistance and 10iu won't even phase them, the individual variance is extreme. You can also change your sensitivity over time...

 

[sammy555]

Here is an example, lets say someone ate very little sugar, worked out hard, never used slin, and tried this protocol. Assuming a very low insulin resistance, 5iu of Novalog could put them down in 10 minutes, before they even consume their first shake.

Most people have very high insulin resistance and 10iu won't even phase them, the individual variance is extreme. You can also change your sensitivity over time...

This is why ill have to work into it very slowly, i have very high insulin sensitivity despite my gh use and all the carbs i hammer.

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[PHIL HERNON]

Well

This insulin nonsense is getting crazy......YOU CANNOT HAVE A PROTOCOL......your body adapts too quickly.......its worthless to have a " protocol"........it may work for 1-2 days.........use slin the way it is suposed to be used, to protect you from type 2 diabetes from GH over use.

 

[discohornet]

This insulin nonsense is getting crazy......YOU CANNOT HAVE A PROTOCOL......your body adapts too quickly.......its worthless to have a " protocol"........it may work for 1-2 days.........use slin the way it is suposed to be used, to protect you from type 2 diabetes from GH over use.

It goes without saying I am a major proponent of health when using GH, and I've often suggested people use insulin if their glucose is getting too high AND they don't want to stop using GH. I would now recommend using GW501516 to restore sensitivity, but the fact remains that insulin will put the fire out and quick. I believe insulin can be used(especially for carnitine protocols), and its effects continue to be useful, but I also believe it's a good way to screw up your body. I also feel like manipulation of your own body's insulin can be an effective tool. But I find myself on a board full of people not looking for a shortcut per se, but rather, not seeing the big picture.

I used humulin-r at 1-2 ius daily for almost a year and I never felt better. It kept me hungry and I enjoy feeling just a bit hypo. It was more of an anti-aging protocol, and one I would recommend to sensible people. But protocols of 10ius daily is going to build resistance and fast. At this point though I can't say much more because i haven't walked in those moccasins.

 

[emeric delczeg]

It goes without saying I am a major proponent of health when using GH, and I've often suggested people use insulin if their glucose is getting too high AND they don't want to stop using GH. I would now recommend using GW501516 to restore sensitivity, but the fact remains that insulin will put the fire out and quick. I believe insulin can be used(especially for carnitine protocols), and its effects continue to be useful, but I also believe it's a good way to screw up your body. I also feel like manipulation of your own body's insulin can be an effective tool. But I find myself on a board full of people not looking for a shortcut per se, but rather, not seeing the big picture.

I used humulin-r at 1-2 ius daily for almost a year and I never felt better. It kept me hungry and I enjoy feeling just a bit hypo. It was more of an anti-aging protocol, and one I would recommend to sensible people. But protocols of 10ius daily is going to build resistance and fast. At this point though I can't say much more because i haven't walked in those moccasins.

High insulin has no anti-aging effect, insulin and HGH should be used only if your are diebetic or your HGH levels are below normal. Why take a risc when is no need for.

 

[iintensity]

There is nothing special about either, both just over complicate something simple. Inject insulin (pre workout if you wish) and consume protein and carbs. There is no additional benefits to following either proctool in particular.

 

[Knight9]

This insulin nonsense is getting crazy......YOU CANNOT HAVE A PROTOCOL......your body adapts too quickly.......its worthless to have a " protocol"........it may work for 1-2 days.........use slin the way it is suposed to be used, to protect you from type 2 diabetes from GH over use.

And you do that how? Phil I admire and respect you to the fullest, but I can't stand when you give an opinionated answer like this telling people to use it how it's meant to be used and you do not cite or spell out an example.

I feel as if your post gets a lotta people thinking and believing in what you say and they are left confused with how to apply the suggestion.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

And you do that how? Phil I admire and respect you to the fullest, but I can't stand when you give an opinionated answer like this telling people to use it how it's meant to be used and you do not cite or spell out an example.

I feel as if your post gets a lotta people thinking and believing in what you say and they are left confused with how to apply the suggestion.

I am
Unsure how you could not understand what " no protocol" means? It seems like you are asking me for a protocol. Insulin controls BG levels correct? Keep them under control. How can you state that a certain number of iu will do this job at all times? You can't