Using PGE-1 I have gained x inches doing it for y months ???

[richard johnson]

I thought it would be good to hear how much you guys have gained because other than OMG! and a few others there is very little out there in terms on actual measured gains.

 

[mg1228]

1/8 inch in length and girth in 2 weeks....pin 3 days a week

 

[bdodge]

1/4 inch length
1/2 girth
pinning 5x week

bathmate 5x week -
ADS - 2-3 hours a day

8 weeks.

 

[sob10]

1/4" girth in 1 1/2 weeks 4 injections.

 

[richard johnson]

There's growth to be had which makes the pain more bearable.

What's the growth mechanism? I thought that it was a case that your CCs would eventually get bigger due to prolonged expansion. However today I feel as if the muscle enveloping the the CCs is much more plump and thicker when I jelq. It's as if I can move it up and down the shaft of my penis. Not sure if this is OK or is it scar tissue building up (only pinned 5/6 times)?

 

[Chipper Jones78]

Silly question here:

Are mesuring when you get up in the morning or are you folks measuring after PE ?

I would assume any time before PE, correct ? As mesuring during would result in flawed numbers.

Just curious and asking.

OP - good post, it's good to hear what other people are experiencing or not experiencing.

 

[sob10]

Silly question here:

Are mesuring when you get up in the morning or are you folks measuring after PE ?

I would assume any time before PE, correct ? As mesuring during would result in flawed numbers.

Just curious and asking.

OP - good post, it's good to hear what other people are experiencing or not experiencing.

2/3days after injection morning usually.

 

[Chipper Jones78]

2/3days after injection morning usually.

Thanks, I figured.

I trust everyone who chimed in here measured the same fashion as you did.

 

[richard johnson]

Anymore results been evidenced?

Have pinned myself 4/5 times so far and think it's getting thicker. Maybe physiological but not measured without PGE1 yet.

How long before it is out of your system so that you can measure actual gains?

 

[eaglecall]

There is no real growth with PGE-1 and/or other chemicals. The only thing you're doing is experience a temporary enlargement due to the constant pressure promoted by the chemicals. Is similar to what happens with skeletal muscle. If you workout hard and use steroids, you will look awesome. But stop steroids, stop working out, and your body will shrink to its original size. There was never real "meat" added. It was all enlargement of the same tissue. Now some will say that after years of training heavy you force your genetics to change and add real muscle. It seems to be real, but is all theory.

Something similar happens in the penis. Stop the chemicals, stop the exercise, and your cock will shrink back to its original size. Why? because you never added actual real tissue where is needed. It is proven that smooth muscle has different ways to grow and expand in size. But the limiting factor in the penile structure is the tunica albuginea. The sleeve that surrounds the CC's. If you don't add new tissue to this sleeve, there will never be room for real expansion.

The enlargement you experience with current procedures is just the temporary stretching of the tunica. Is like pumping more air into a tire, and saying that the tire grew because is bigger than the other ones. No. It didn't grow. You just forced more air in it and stretched a little bit temporarily. The only way to make that tire bigger is to add more rubber to it.

The structure of the tunica is very complex, and there are no proven methods, nor theories that can actually genetically modify this structure.

 

[kingsnake]

Hey Eaglecall. I disagree with this because personally I have taking 2 to 3 month deconditioning breaks from PE and retained all of my gains during the break time.

orginal size before PE: 8 inches length x 5.25 midshaft girth x 5.5 basegirth

Size after 4 years of conventional PE: 9.5 inches length x 6.25 inches midshaft girth x 6.45 inches base girth

Current size so far after 2 months of chemical PE: 9.5 inches length x 6.4 inches midshaft girth x 6.6 inches base girth

Hey richard johnson. The growth mechanism isn't just being erect for hours at a time. It's also the PGE1 delinking the cologen of the tunica for greater expansion. I notice this as well when I perform girth workouts after my PGE1 erection wears off. My clamped girth after a pge1 erection reaches 6.7 inches at midshaft. Without a pge1 erection before hand clamped girth only reaches 6.6 inches at midshaft. So it's the prolonged erections and the cologen delinking that helps with growth. Throw in some conventional PE workouts with it for further tension and you have a receipe for growth.

 

[tiestolife]

Im 1/2 Length 1/2 girth in just shy of a month, PGE1, PABA, and IGF-1, Clamping. 6 days a week. On test too, but that doesnt matter.

 

[livinglovinglearning]

There is no real growth with PGE-1 and/or other chemicals. The only thing you're doing is experience a temporary enlargement due to the constant pressure promoted by the chemicals. Is similar to what happens with skeletal muscle. If you workout hard and use steroids, you will look awesome. But stop steroids, stop working out, and your body will shrink to its original size. There was never real "meat" added. It was all enlargement of the same tissue. Now some will say that after years of training heavy you force your genetics to change and add real muscle. It seems to be real, but is all theory.

Something similar happens in the penis. Stop the chemicals, stop the exercise, and your cock will shrink back to its original size. Why? because you never added actual real tissue where is needed. It is proven that smooth muscle has different ways to grow and expand in size. But the limiting factor in the penile structure is the tunica albuginea. The sleeve that surrounds the CC's. If you don't add new tissue to this sleeve, there will never be room for real expansion.

The enlargement you experience with current procedures is just the temporary stretching of the tunica. Is like pumping more air into a tire, and saying that the tire grew because is bigger than the other ones. No. It didn't grow. You just forced more air in it and stretched a little bit temporarily. The only way to make that tire bigger is to add more rubber to it.

The structure of the tunica is very complex, and there are no proven methods, nor theories that can actually genetically modify this structure.

This may be one of the best written but most factually fucked posts that I've had the pleasure of reading on this here interweb board.

 

[mg1228]

:yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat:

 

[sob10]

1/4" girth in 1 1/2 weeks 4 injections.

Since adding in the verapamil girth increase has went to 1/2" post 2/3 days injection but during the actual quadmix+verapamil erection and day after it is +3/4" of girth at 6" girth!

I cant believe my eyes sometimes and does it feel wrong I want more!

 

[bdodge]

how much verapamil are you injecting......

 

[sob10]

how much verapamil are you injecting......

Ive replied to your pm but will put the info here as well for others who are interested.

1.25mg of verapamil or less as I use it in the same syringe as quadmix backloaded so it is not kept in the same syrines/vial for any length of time. Once backloaded it is shot within 5-10mins after a hot shower with an adjustable cock ring to keep the verapamil in the cc for as long as possible.

I use the verapamil to soften or break down peyronies scars so be careful as Iam not sure how much one should use of verapamil when no scarring is present. I would try 1mg or less for first shot although it being a collagen unlinker like PGE-1 , I doubt one could overdose on it but best to be safe than sorry.

 

[sob10]

The peyronies specialists use 5-10mg of verapamil every 2 weeks so 1.25mg is relatively small dose.

 

[mg1228]

The peyronies specialists use 5-10mg of verapamil every 2 weeks so 1.25mg is relatively small dose.

i got some oral paba (para-aminobenzoic acid)...that worth taking to help loosen things up?

was gonna take 2mg a day split into 2 doses

 

[richard johnson]

Is it all about chemically induced expansion beyond what you can normally get?

More normal erection girth is 5.25 inches mid-shaft. Using PGE1 my girth is 5.5 inches but I have to jelq/edge a bit to get a full on dicks about to explode erection. If I don't jelq/edge then my CC's are rock hard but the head is semi but I know that this is normal.

I'm currently on 11mcg and wonder if I need to increase to dosage even though I get 4/5/6 hours with this current dose.

Will increasing the dose increase the expansion I experience?