Is there really a big difference.

Tough Old Man · Nov 15, 2012

Herman the rat is accepting his punishment by me injecting his hairy little body 3 times a day with 100 mcgs of CJC1295 w/o dac and GHRP2.

I'm thinking of giving him a break by making it 2 injections a day with 150 mcgs..so he will still be getting 300 mcgs of ea daily. Is this ok or a bad idea.

Mike Arnold · Nov 15, 2012

You "can" do that, but more frequent injections is a better idea. Remember, the CJC no dac + GHRP-2 combo only keeps GH elevated for about 90 minutes and then returns to baseline. However, in order to get the greatest benefit from GH, we need to keep levels elevated as long as possible. Even with a 3X a day schedule, GH levels are being elevated for only 4.5 hours per day.

Now, 4.5 hours is by no means bad, but reducing it down to only 3 hours (which ocures with 2 daily injects) will give the GH less time to work its magic. This combo of peps already elevates GH to an extremne degree when using only 100 mcg of each, so it makes more sense to increase injection frequncy, rather than reduce frequncy and increase dosage per inject.

Now, with that said, the above recommendation was based purely on a BB'ing progress perspective. For people who are only looking for the quality of life benefits, 2X daily injections will still be benficial, although even in this case, 3X daily would be preferable.

The_Mayor · Nov 16, 2012

If maintaining high levels of GH is best, why is there issue with CJC DAC and the "bleed" phenomenon?

Or why wouldn't it be better to do multiple times per day dosing of GH since it provides elevated GH levels for much longer time under the curve than the peptide combo you're talking about?

Just curious...this is all pretty confusing.

Rather than keeping GH levels high for as long as possible, the more frequent pulses seem to be the key. At least that's what I've gathered from my reading so far.

TM

Mike Arnold · Nov 17, 2012

The_Mayor said:
If maintaining high levels of GH is best, why is there issue with CJC DAC and the "bleed" phenomenon?
There is no issue...the GH bleed debate is bullshit! BB'rs have been using exo GH 2-3X daily for decades now with great results. The reason for this is because it works better than just once daily use, in terms of fat loss. Injecting GH 2-3X daily keeps GH levels elevated all day long...so if GH bleed was an issue, which it isn't, then why would so many GH users be running GH this way and getting better results?

The whole GH bleed thing came about through a perspective, which quite frankly, did not take into consideration what is best for BB'rs. There was really only one person who started talking about this GH bleed crap, but most people know better now. Unfortunately, for a long time, BB'rs listended to this advice because the explanation sounded legitimate, when in reality it focused on the minutia and overlooked the bigger picture.

Or why wouldn't it be better to do multiple times per day dosing of GH since it provides elevated GH levels for much longer time under the curve than the peptide combo you're talking about?

Just curious...this is all pretty confusing.

Rather than keeping GH levels high for as long as possible, the more frequent pulses seem to be the key. At least that's what I've gathered from my reading so far.

TM