kidney support (any newer info)

[nfernoo]

A friend of mine (24 years old)
needs a kidney transplant.
He's pretty muscular but hasn't mentioned the cause of his condition.

This has made me think a lil more about possible health issues from AAS.
I won't take an oral without udca because of the many cases liver failure.

I've searched up many threads for kidney issues and supps.
with all the constantly improved Info we get here, I'm hoping for the latest
info.

 

[ajdos]

The biggest key is blood pressure, there are other contributing factors with AAS usage but BP is top of the list.

 

[Stewie]

At his age I would suspect he had an underlying condition that lead to his renal failure. Polycystic kidney disease or possibly Alport syndrome. In this situation no amount of supplements would help offset the progression. Obviously his physicians know better than I on the cause.

Hopefully he finds a donor soon.

 

[nfernoo]

The biggest key is blood pressure, there are other contributing factors with AAS usage but BP is top of the list.

People ignore bp for extended periods. It's pretty concerning.

What do you guys take for no?
luckily my bp only gets higher on certain compounds.

Garlic and olive leaf has helped me. Occasionally
an aspirine.

Anyone do low dose cialis.
How about Ubiquinol?

 

[bill2]

cystone from hymalaia year round !

 

[xxxLGxxx]

Have you looked into kidney stuff from golden standard? Heard good things about it. Haven't used it myself yet.

 

[ajdos]

People ignore bp for extended periods. It's pretty concerning.

What do you guys take for no?
luckily my bp only gets higher on certain compounds.

Garlic and olive leaf has helped me. Occasionally
an aspirine.

Anyone do low dose cialis.
How about Ubiquinol?

ON or OFF I have high BP, so I have taken meds for about 9 years or so.
Cozar and lisinipril or enalapril.
I checked my BP this morning at 265 lbs I had 113 over 55 which for me is good.
Before the meds I was 180's over 70's constantly and on tren or stims I don't even want to know.
The meds work really well I also take fish oils, ubiquinol, aspirin, hawthorne berry and magnesium aspartate.

 

[Dr_Bob]

A friend of mine (24 years old)
needs a kidney transplant.
He's pretty muscular but hasn't mentioned the cause of his condition.

This has made me think a lil more about possible health issues from AAS.
I won't take an oral without udca because of the many cases liver failure.

I've searched up many threads for kidney issues and supps.
with all the constantly improved Info we get here, I'm hoping for the latest
info.

Forget about kidney/liver supps, they do not work. Actually, there is 1 "supp" that works: Drink lots and lots of water. Tren is kidney toxic, avoid or use moderation.

In fact, be moderate regarding gear in general. The guys (and gals) on this board are top dogs. Either top competitors, or guys who look like they should be on stage.

They use very large amounts. At higher levels, b building is not about health, it is about winning. Not everyone can tolerate 2 plus grams of gear a week. Those that do, are taking health risks. They are like race car drivers. I used to be one of them.

I now am very happy on much more moderate dosages.

So, stay away from tren, drink lots of water, and run moderate cycles.

 

[Knight9]

Forget about kidney/liver supps, they do not work. Actually, there is 1 "supp" that works: Drink lots and lots of water. Tren is kidney toxic, avoid or use moderation.

In fact, be moderate regarding gear in general. The guys (and gals) on this board are top dogs. Either top competitors, or guys who look like they should be on stage.

They use very large amounts. At higher levels, b building is not about health, it is about winning. Not everyone can tolerate 2 plus grams of gear a week. Those that do, are taking health risks. They are like race car drivers. I used to be one of them.

I now am very happy on much more moderate dosages.

So, stay away from tren, drink lots of water, and run moderate cycles.

Good advice but some liver supplements like tudca, glutathione/nac and d-lemonine work well. Kidney supps....Yea I am not sure anything but water and monitoring BP is out there.

Tren being kidney toxic? Isn't that a myth? Sure increased bp etc...but tren itself being kidney toxic? Is there proof? Are you an M.D.?

 

[ketsugo3]

It is a myth and Supps do work to say they don't is out of excuse my expression sheer inexperience and ignorance, however nothing is magical one needs,like anything to be disciplined enough to use them over time. While the power of these compounds should be respected , no need to be paranoid. Someone comes down with a health issue and automatically they blame steroid. That's bull. Look around the forums kids and Newby advice , abusing , cruising it's not aas it's how one uses them. Young impatience not learning to gain natural using aas for shortcuts then only finding dissatisfied results so they use higher doses stay on longer and longer. Plus if you have prior health issues anything can be harmful. I keep saying this anyone around this community knows I been around forums since Internet was created. 20 plus cycles at 50 I'm healthier than I was in my 20s, bigger at 265, stronger leaner year round. My diet by preferences us clean year round, hate alcohol, hate smoke never done either. Have blood work done regularly. My health improves. Bodybuilding is to improve health and aas and hgh can enhance recovery, assimilation of what you feed it, Supps for health. Bodybuilding has always,been ahead of the medical field, therefore for people to keep asking for studies or docs just plain asinine. Personally, I hate tren but has a bad rap. Top dogs here? You need to get out more bro lol

 

[Bamm]

? for Ajdos

ON or OFF I have high BP, so I have taken meds for about 9 years or so.
Cozar and lisinipril or enalapril.
I checked my BP this morning at 265 lbs I had 113 over 55 which for me is good.
Before the meds I was 180's over 70's constantly and on tren or stims I don't even want to know.
The meds work really well I also take fish oils, ubiquinol, aspirin, hawthorne berry and magnesium aspartate.

Did/do you use BP meds while on cycle? And how did that work? Any sides or sides in general?

Im natural 120/75 ish. But even in a small dosis of test im up to 140 easy. And on eq/tren and hgh it can creap up to 160ish. And i go off.

/thanks

 

[Dr_Bob]

Good advice but some liver supplements like tudca, glutathione/nac and d-lemonine work well. Kidney supps....Yea I am not sure anything but water and monitoring BP is out there.

Tren being kidney toxic? Isn't that a myth? Sure increased bp etc...but tren itself being kidney toxic? Is there proof? Are you an M.D.?

PhD....the kind of doc that is mostly useless