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Test and GH combo.

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This would be too long winded to fully type out so heres the facts.
HCG 2500 units 3x a week
total testosterone 550
doc wants to take me off HCG since my wife and I have 6 frozen embryos and wont need to go through IVF again.

Doc wants to go with 200 test e 4 weeks

My plan for HRT plus anti aging is
25 mg test p ed or eod
2 units gh

Not sure if Ill go full bore with the AAS again but after researching some of emerics posts and massive G's as well I'm really liking the idea of low frequent doses of testosterone instead of larger doses with long ester compounds.
 
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Im not on HRT, I just cycle low doses for a few months then come off for like 7-8 months. But from what i know about HRT that sounds like a decent plan. If you wanted to do less frequent injections you could do one shot of cyp or enanthate broken down into 2 injections .5 and .5 and do it twice a week. But if you like prop just do that…

2iu GH is good for anti aging i suppose. I am on 3 iu now just to save money but i don't like to do less than 4, but I'm doing it for fat burning.

What exactly was your question?
 
Im not on HRT, I just cycle low doses for a few months then come off for like 7-8 months. But from what i know about HRT that sounds like a decent plan. If you wanted to do less frequent injections you could do one shot of cyp or enanthate broken down into 2 injections .5 and .5 and do it twice a week. But if you like prop just do that…

2iu GH is good for anti aging i suppose. I am on 3 iu now just to save money but i don't like to do less than 4, but I'm doing it for fat burning.

What exactly was your question?
Thanks man, I'm basically not really agreeing with the doctor on long ester compounds and he does not want to prescribe the GH. He's the only doctor in the network so im stuck due to insurance. I've been out of the game for 2 years now and after reading a lot I feel that the short esters with low and more frequent dosing would be a better protocal. I just want to get some opinions on it.
 
Yeah that works if you dont mind pinning a lot. GH is hard to get prescribed, you need to get it on your own.

Maybe some guys with more HRT experience will chime in. I used to get prescribed 1 shot of cyp a week and I would just add to that, but i wasnt truly on HRT.
 
My endo yelled at me when I once told her I split my 150mg into two weekly injections instead of one. I can only imagine how she'd feel if I told her I now do it sub Q EOD. Most doctors aren't very bright in that area. You'll probably have to go black market with GH.

I think 200mg test and 2iu GH is a solid anti aging long term solution as long as you see a cardiologist yearly to make sure there isn't heart growth.
 
I'm not on HRT/TRT but in your situation I would maybe do something along the lines of

50mg cyp EOD or E3D (depending on whether you'd prefer 125 or 175mg/wk)
2-3iu pharm GH (if you have high quality generics maybe 2-4iu instead) either immediately on waking or preWO

If you wanted to "blast" at any point, just double the test dose to get around 400mg/wk and add the same dose of primo, or NPP...maybe a little bit of insulin (not required though) :D

Just a thought!
 
My endo yelled at me when I once told her I split my 150mg into two weekly injections instead of one. I can only imagine how she'd feel if I told her I now do it sub Q EOD. Most doctors aren't very bright in that area. You'll probably have to go black market with GH.

I think 200mg test and 2iu GH is a solid anti aging long term solution as long as you see a cardiologist yearly to make sure there isn't heart growth.

Yeah doc's dont know much when it comes to this stuff. They say once a week is great...
 
Yeah doc's dont know much when it comes to this stuff. They say once a week is great...

They actually think once every two weeks is good, which is complete foolishness.
 
I'm on 150mgs of test a week and 2ius of gh doc prescribed. Puts my free test levels around 1000 and my igf levels around 220. I'm on dialysis as well so imagine how much better a person with normal kidney function would do. My labs are g2g and my bp is normally 115/70. My quality of life has improved vastly since being on hrt.
 
If I were only able to use two items it would be a TEST/HHG combo.
For the life of me I still don't understand these doctors thinking when it comes
to prescribing TEST E / TEST CYP at 3-4 week intervals whens its been clearly shown that levels drop dramatically from around day 10. It could have hormone levels up and down like a roller coaster.
 
They actually think once every two weeks is good, which is complete foolishness.

You are probably right. My doc was kinda like an anabolic doc so he knew a little more, he said once a week. He did take my blood once when I was on Winnie tabs and my liver lipids were messed up, I was shocked as I had only been taking them for 2 weeks. He gave me shit for taking winnie, meanwhile he prescribed me one shot of cyp a week and 1 tube of testim a day.

Obviously tabs are worse for you, but i wasnt in the mood for a lecture from a legal drug dealer. Still i was shocked it only took 2 weeks to mess me up, goes to show you need to watch it with orals.
 
You are probably right. My doc was kinda like an anabolic doc so he knew a little more, he said once a week. He did take my blood once when I was on Winnie tabs and my liver lipids were messed up, I was shocked as I had only been taking them for 2 weeks. He gave me shit for taking winnie, meanwhile he prescribed me one shot of cyp a week and 1 tube of testim a day.



Obviously tabs are worse for you, but i wasnt in the mood for a lecture from a legal drug dealer. Still i was shocked it only took 2 weeks to mess me up, goes to show you need to watch it with orals.


Liver values fluctuate like crazy. Go binge drinking one weekend and see how high they get. Wait a few days and they are back to normal. Lipids take slightly longer
 
TRT

My doc prescribed a 200mg shot every 6 days. Top Dr. in the city as afar as TRT.. Can't afford his HGH.
 
Doctor prescribed trt and TP's grays are a great combo. Feel like I'm in my 20's most days.
 
Not to get off subject but it's great to see you posting again tkav!
 
Test and GH is all I use all year long at my 40. Not exactly HRT but manteinance doses will be 250/EW and 2IU/ED and for time to time I up my dose to 500-750 EW and an oral here and there and 4-5IU ED as kind of blast.
 
If I were only able to use two items it would be a TEST/HHG combo.
For the life of me I still don't understand these doctors thinking when it comes
to prescribing TEST E / TEST CYP at 3-4 week intervals whens its been clearly shown that levels drop dramatically from around day 10. It could have hormone levels up and down like a roller coaster.

Its mostly a lack of education. My doctor is a urologist who is supposed to be a male reproductive specialist. He works in a large office where he mostly deals with stuff like prostate issues and E.D. His concern is seeing my test levels in the normal range when I go for blood work. That can be accomplished if I get my blood drawn on the right day with a monthly injection of long ester test. He doesnt really care too much if the levels fluctuate in between although he should.

In my situation I have no choice of doctors since he's the only one in network for insurance, I cant afford to do see the real specialist, which I did see when my wife and I were going through IVF at a cost of $750 for the visit. I cant pay that $750 on a regular basis for a doctors appointment.

also, I have a permanant script for HCG/hmg. It's not like I wont raise the dose of the test eventually but not until I plateau at normal hormone levels.
 
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You can still get great results doing subq twice a week...
 

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