Is it possible to get a thick back without deadlifts?
Is it possible to get a thick back without deadlifts?
Other than camera ops and lower weight at the end, you rarely seen anyone with a big back doing these. What you do see is guys with no backs doings these constantly
Hmmm....don't know about that one. He did say "thick", not wide. Only reason I differentiate as I recall rack deads being one of my staples with DC on thickness movements. When I think thick I am talking about what you see from the side as well as overall development. We've all seen the buck-50 guys who have some lats doing pullups in a string tank, but they turn sideways and disappear. I don't have that problem and credit rack deads with helping in that area. I don't generally go as heavy as I used to, but doing them the way Meadows has you do them with constant tension on the lats through out and dead stops is a pretty effective way to increase load on back without the spine pain.
Ive never once felt my lats with dead or racks.
I have thickness and width.
I think (just my opinion) guys think deads/rack pulls built their backs. Even though they're doing everything else they claim these built their back.
For me they do nothing. I've been told I'm doing everything right.
It puts unnecessary stress on spine and lower back (which makes you think its working your back out)
Other than camera ops and lower weight at the end, you rarely seen anyone with a big back doing these. What you do see is guys with no backs doings these constantly
Ha, you must not have ever seen a powerlifter in person..............
This.All I know is that when Deads or Rack Deads are incorporated into my routine, my spinal erectors look significantly thicker...same with traps.
He said back...lats of course can get thick without dead or racks. But to have an overall thick back? For those not genetically gifted, racks and deads will certainly be the bread and butter for most.
Barbell rows, dumbbell rows, and T-bar rows!
Screw power lifting movements like dead lifts!
everyone in this thread should post a pic of their back
so we can get a better idea of who we should be listening to