DRY cruise

[AVelasques911]

Cruising on 200 Test/200 Mast

The mast alone took almost an inch off my waist, so as you can see I bloat a lot and am really sensitive to e2.

I'm still toying with this but the goal from now on is lean and dry year round. Bloodwork is great so I won't be cruising over 400 BUT I did think of lowering the test to 100mg and upping the mast to 300mg.

It's kind of an odd number but 100mg of test puts me at 790ng/dl which isn't terrible, and I'd hope the 300mg of Mast would do something to maintain some degree of size. 100 test/400 Mast?

I know pre-contest a lot of ya'll drop the test completely but for a year round cruise would keeping it at strictly a low-dose TRT level and focusing on running off more DHT compounds be of any benefit?

Please note this WILL be doctor monitored with monthly bloodwork. I haven't cycled in over ten years and yes, I will be pushing the envelope a bit under supervision. I'm hoping to only use test and masteron along with stanazolol on and off.

I'm essentially trying to get the tren look, on a lower-scale, without the tren if I can.

 

[KlingonFromUranus]

Im doing the same as you 200 test / 200 mast and love it. When I want to up the dose I add in 150 eq. I would stay at 200 test / 200mast personally and not drop to 100n t / 300 mast. Mast is quite mild actually. Maybe up the dose to 200 t / 300 mast imho.

 

[AVelasques911]

Im doing the same as you 200 test / 200 mast and love it. When I want to up the dose I add in 150 eq. I would stay at 200 test / 200mast personally and not drop to 100n t / 300 mast. Mast is quite mild actually. Maybe up the dose to 200 t / 300 mast imho.

Thanks, yeah I've actually thought about, not really blasting but just cycling something on and off on top of it, probably just more mast, winny or low-dose superdrol, maybe Tren if I ever lose my fear of it...... I have to look at EQ, it's one of those compounds that has always slipped under my radar.

 

[rookx750]

You or if anyone else has been on this or a protocolor something like this for six months or longer I would love to see bloods if willing to share. 200/200 test mast “cycle” would provide drastic results in my body running yearly. You could cut and bulk successfully with the proper diet. The mind set of a low n slow compilied with patience, I love the combo. I could imagine that even this cycle for years at a time with bloods Would eventually start going out of wack here n there. I see cholesterol and PSA issues eventually but everyone’s different.

 

[RoyHobbs]

What did you e2 measure at that 100/test? Why not us an AI to control e2 if thats what is causing bloat instead of adding a second aas?

I personally can't tolerate dht's as they mess with my prostate so much. I would much prefer to cruise at high end TRT dose with 2-3iu GH.

 

[KlingonFromUranus]

What did you e2 measure at that 100/test? Why not us an AI to control e2 if thats what is causing bloat instead of adding a second aas?

I personally can't tolerate dht's as they mess with my prostate so much. I would much prefer to cruise at high end TRT dose with 2-3iu GH.

Some of us want to cruise with more than just trt doses. The mast goes very well with test.

 

[AVelasques911]

You or if anyone else has been on this or a protocolor something like this for six months or longer I would love to see bloods if willing to share. 200/200 test mast “cycle” would provide drastic results in my body running yearly. You could cut and bulk successfully with the proper diet. The mind set of a low n slow compilied with patience, I love the combo. I could imagine that even this cycle for years at a time with bloods Would eventually start going out of wack here n there. I see cholesterol and PSA issues eventually but everyone’s different.

Well I've only been on 200/200 a little under 3 months but did my general bloodwork and it was perfect minus two things. My LDL was just a tad above normal, doc wasn't worried at all, said to not even make any changes and don't stress over it. I don't have the sheet with me but it was very minor. And of course my hematocrit/RBC was a bit high since I haven't donated yet. Again she said it was barely anything, just told me to go on a baby aspirin regimen and if I need I can donate blood 2-3 times a year (don't consider this a side effect, anyone on AAS should be donating). PSA no problem but I do take 5mg of cialis nightly and would up that to 10mg if I upped any androgen, stuff does wonders and has tons of benefits, some pretty fun lol. Blood pressure was 110/80, everything was perfect.

PSA, Blood Pressure and lipids would be the main things to keep an eye on over time, as you already stated. It's still a pretty mild combo (a lot of HIV patients are on 200 test/200 deca year round) for a cruise.

 

[AVelasques911]

What did you e2 measure at that 100/test? Why not us an AI to control e2 if thats what is causing bloat instead of adding a second aas?

I personally can't tolerate dht's as they mess with my prostate so much. I would much prefer to cruise at high end TRT dose with 2-3iu GH.

The funny thing is my e2 on both 100mg and 200mg, using the same sensitive test, comes in at 32 for both. No difference.

But it seems to be more an issue of me being extra sensitive to e2, it's not just the bloat, libido goes down fast (i can raise it easily by popping some letro for a few days.... which is pretty crazy on 200mg of test), right nipple starts to get painful etc.

As to why add more AAS? Legit question. I'm competing in 2020 and plan on pursuing photoshoot work as well. So my TRT days are done, it's cruising for me now. That means being safe but also making a decision that I'm not doing the healthiest thing for my body but it's what I want to do right now. Last time I cycled was around 2005, so my body has changed and it's like I'm starting from scratch.

I seem to be the opposite of you, DHT's make me feel amazing.

 

[AVelasques911]

You or if anyone else has been on this or a protocolor something like this for six months or longer I would love to see bloods if willing to share. 200/200 test mast “cycle” would provide drastic results in my body running yearly. You could cut and bulk successfully with the proper diet. The mind set of a low n slow compilied with patience, I love the combo. I could imagine that even this cycle for years at a time with bloods Would eventually start going out of wack here n there. I see cholesterol and PSA issues eventually but everyone’s different.

Well I've only been on 200/200 a little under 3 months but did my general bloodwork and it was perfect minus two things. My LDL was just a tad above normal, doc wasn't worried at all, said to not even make any changes and don't stress over it. I don't have the sheet with me but it was very minor. And of course my hematocrit/RBC was a bit high since I haven't donated yet. Again she said it was barely anything, just told me to go on a baby aspirin regimen and if I need I can donate blood 2-3 times a year (don't consider this a side effect, anyone on AAS should be donating). PSA no problem but I do take 5mg of cialis nightly and would up that to 10mg if I upped any androgen, stuff does wonders and has tons of benefits, some pretty fun lol. Blood pressure was 110/80, everything was perfect.

PSA, Blood Pressure and lipids would be the main things to keep an eye on over time, as you already stated. It's still a pretty mild combo (a lot of HIV patients are on 200 test/200 deca year round) for a cruise.

 

[ThomaX]

Im also extremly sensitive to estro. But do mast work as a AI
for you while on 200mg test?

I can use max 100-120mg test ew without AI. Will be on trt for
the rest of my life (doing cycles between). But i would like to be able
to do a higher trt then 120mg test.. but if i would run 200mg ew i
would need a AI. And to use arimidex for 30 years forward, would NOT
be good for my joints.. or health.

Im very curious about DHB. It will be more easy to get in a few months
where i live. And i cant WAIT to have some fun with that.

Like 30mg aka 30iu on a slin pin, 3 times per weak. Thats only 100mg
and would be like 400mg test, with dryness it wound like. Damn what
a drug that wound like. Both do cycles with it, and cruises AND trt.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I'm actually running 200 test/200 mast for the first time (my cruise) right now. I had used 200 test + 50 proviron for years and loved it so tried to switch over to Mast. Like the look but i still need to play around with my e2 as my libido is pretty low right now. Gotta get some bloods in the next week to see if its my estro or something else.

 

[AVelasques911]

Im also extremly sensitive to estro. But do mast work as a AI
for you while on 200mg test?

I can use max 100-120mg test ew without AI. Will be on trt for
the rest of my life (doing cycles between). But i would like to be able
to do a higher trt then 120mg test.. but if i would run 200mg ew i
would need a AI. And to use arimidex for 30 years forward, would NOT
be good for my joints.. or health.

Im very curious about DHB. It will be more easy to get in a few months
where i live. And i cant WAIT to have some fun with that.

Like 30mg aka 30iu on a slin pin, 3 times per weak. Thats only 100mg
and would be like 400mg test, with dryness it wound like. Damn what
a drug that wound like. Both do cycles with it, and cruises AND trt.

Good look with that DHB man, there's been so much talk about.

No Mast did not work as an AI on 200/200.

As of right now, the tentative plan is
100mg Test E. (with 500iu HCG weekly)
400mg Mast E.
And 8 weeks on/8 weeks off
200 mg of ? I'd like Tren Hex/Enanthate since it's more in line with my look I'm going for but I might consider Nandrolone as well mainly for the joint relief.

This is just a tentative plan based on my own bloodwork. I'm not just adding everything at once. I'm starting with the masteron at 300, then a blood/PSA test.... if it's still good, i up it to 400 and test again and if it's good I'll keep it there.

I fully expect the tren to trash my lipids and BP while on, so if I go that route my tests will be while off of it.

The nandrolone is overall more appealing but something about test/mast/tren/cialis/caber....... yes, I'm after phsyique but I like to have "fun" too.