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High hemoglobin

Just got a call from my Dr. and he his concerned about my hemoglobin being high. He says my body is producing too many red blood cells. Ust wondering if anyone has run into this.
I am 65 and do very light cycles twice a year. 250mgTE,200mgDeca per week and 25mg winnie for the first 4 weeks and 20mdvar for the second 4 weeks. Ended cycle end of Oct.
my hemoglobin is 20.9, with 14-18 being normal, in July it was 19.3
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Just got a call from my Dr. and he his concerned about my hemoglobin being high. He says my body is producing too many red blood cells. Ust wondering if anyone has run into this.


We are always talking on here about high hemoglobin. it is one of the negative things that anabolic steroids will do to you on a reliable basis. That can cause blood clots which leads to things like stroke and heart attack. Usually starts as a deep vein thrombosis and that can break lose and travel to the lungs. We just had a member have that very thing happen. Not sure if his hemoglobin was high though. It is a risk.


Mine was always high and I had a heart attack. Have the doctor set up a phlebotomy and then youll have to be monitored on a monthly basis for awhile. You are going to need more than one phlebotomy with it that high. I see a hematologist, that is what I recommend.
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How often do you donate blood?

A lot of guys donate blood to get it down. Yours is too high now to do that, they wont let you. YOull need a script for one.
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Just got a call from my Dr. and he his concerned about my hemoglobin being high. He says my body is producing too many red blood cells. Ust wondering if anyone has run into this.
I am 65 and do very light cycles twice a year. 250mgTE,200mgDeca per week and 25mg winnie for the first 4 weeks and 20mdvar for the second 4 weeks. Ended cycle end of Oct.
my hemoglobin is 20.9, with 14-18 being normal, in July it was 19.3
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How often do you donate blood?

A lot of guys donate blood to get it down. Yours is too high now to do that, they wont let you. YOull need a script for one.
I can't, I had hep-c but since have been cured.
My platelets are 195 but my HCT is 63 and what I have read hear that is high
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I can't, I had hep-c but since have been cured.
My platelets are 195 but my HCT is 63 and what I have read hear that is high
I have never heard of hct values being this high
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I have never heard of hct values being this high
Ask john juan, I think his were this high

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Mine has been up to 20 a time or two and I'm only on Dr. prescribed TRT 140mg/wk. I've had it that high on only 100mg/wk test. What I've noticed is that if I'm not well hydrated my hemoglogin creeps up. I also have sleep apnea which can also cause hemoglobin to become elevated if not treated with a CPAP or BIPAP machine. Something else other than blood letting that has helped bring mine down is using an albuterol inhaler throughout the day. I have a friend that is a cardiologist and she actually recommended the albuterol inhaler which brought it down a couple of points after regular daily use. Please don't ignore it and address it sooner than later as some of our intelligent fellow members here have remarked, it can be life threatening. No cycle is worth your health or your life brother. If you can't keep it under control on "small cycles" it's best to stop. Take care.
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I can't, I had hep-c but since have been cured.
My platelets are 195 but my HCT is 63 and what I have read hear that is high
That is very high. The doctor will do a phlebotomy on you. I am surprised he hasn't talked with you about that yet. He should soon if he hasn't.
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I have never heard of hct values being this high
Mine was 62 I think prior to my heart attack. I did self phlebotomies then to get it down, but don't recommend that now.
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We are always talking on here about high hemoglobin. it is one of the negative things that anabolic steroids will do to you on a reliable basis. That can cause blood clots which leads to things like stroke and heart attack. Usually starts as a deep vein thrombosis and that can break lose and travel to the lungs. We just had a member have that very thing happen. Not sure if his hemoglobin was high though. It is a risk.


Mine was always high and I had a heart attack. Have the doctor set up a phlebotomy and then youll have to be monitored on a monthly basis for awhile. You are going to need more than one phlebotomy with it that high. I see a hematologist, that is what I recommend.
I am that member who suffered the pulmonary embolism last month. My blood work was however all in normal range. The clot probably wasn't caused by my use but I'm sure it didn't help.

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Just got a call from my Dr. and he his concerned about my hemoglobin being high. He says my body is producing too many red blood cells. Ust wondering if anyone has run into this.
I am 65 and do very light cycles twice a year. 250mgTE,200mgDeca per week and 25mg winnie for the first 4 weeks and 20mdvar for the second 4 weeks. Ended cycle end of Oct.
my hemoglobin is 20.9, with 14-18 being normal, in July it was 19.3
Any thoughts
It happens more and more as we age. Bhasin et al., from Boston University published 1/2 dozen articles about this. The way to combat it is to donate blood. Your doc should immediately give you a script for blood letting. The Red Cross probably wont take your blood with the hemoglobin so high. They will probably take a liter and you can go back several times with. script to get it under control. The doc should know you are on TRT so he realizes the problem is from androgens and not a blood disorder. This is common in older users and not result of a disease but from higher than physiologic androgens.
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J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2014 Jun;69(6):725-35. doi: 10.1093/gerona/glt154. Epub 2013 Oct 24.
Testosterone induces erythrocytosis via increased erythropoietin and suppressed hepcidin: evidence for a new erythropoietin/hemoglobin set point.

Bachman E1, Travison TG2, Basaria S3, Davda MN2, Guo W2, Li M2, Connor Westfall J3, Bae H3, Gordeuk V2, Bhasin S4.
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BACKGROUND:
The mechanisms by which testosterone increases hemoglobin and hematocrit remain unclear.
METHODS:
We assessed the hormonal and hematologic responses to testosterone administration in a clinical trial in which older men with mobility limitation were randomized to either placebo or testosterone gel daily for 6 months.
RESULTS:
The 7%-10% increase in hemoglobin and hematocrit, respectively, with testosterone administration was associated with significantly increased erythropoietin (EPO) levels and decreased ferritin and hepcidin levels at 1 and 3 months. At 6 months, EPO and hepcidin levels returned toward baseline in spite of continued testosterone administration, but EPO levels remained nonsuppressed even though elevated hemoglobin and hematocrit higher than at baseline, suggesting a new set point. Consistent with increased iron utilization, soluble transferrin receptor (sTR) levels and ratio of sTR/log ferritin increased significantly in testosterone-treated men. Hormonal and hematologic responses were similar in anemic participants. The majority of testosterone-treated anemic participants increased their hemoglobin into normal range.
CONCLUSIONS:
Testosterone-induced increase in hemoglobin and hematocrit is associated with stimulation of EPO and reduced ferritin and hepcidin concentrations. We propose that testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis by stimulating EPO and recalibrating the set point of EPO in relation to hemoglobin and by increasing iron utilization for erythropoiesis.
© The Author 2013. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of The Gerontological Society of America. All rights reserved. For permissions, please e-mail: [email protected].

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Erythropoietin; Ferritin.; Hepcidin; Testosterone
PMID: 24158761 PMCID: PMC4022090 DOI: 10.1093/gerona/glt154
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Aging Cell. 2013 Apr;12(2):280-91. doi: 10.1111/acel.12052. Epub 2013 Feb 28.
Testosterone administration inhibits hepcidin transcription and is associated with increased iron incorporation into red blood cells.

Guo W1, Bachman E, Li M, Roy CN, Blusztajn J, Wong S, Chan SY, Serra C, Jasuja R, Travison TG, Muckenthaler MU, Nemeth E, Bhasin S.
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Testosterone administration increases hemoglobin levels and has been used to treat anemia of chronic disease. Erythrocytosis is the most frequent adverse event associated with testosterone therapy of hypogonadal men, especially older men. However, the mechanisms by which testosterone increases hemoglobin remain unknown. Testosterone administration in male and female mice was associated with a greater increase in hemoglobin and hematocrit, reticulocyte count, reticulocyte hemoglobin concentration, and serum iron and transferrin saturation than placebo. Testosterone downregulated hepatic hepcidin mRNA expression, upregulated renal erythropoietin mRNA expression, and increased erythropoietin levels. Testosterone-induced suppression of hepcidin expression was independent of its effects on erythropoietin or hypoxia-sensing mechanisms. Transgenic mice with liver-specific constitutive hepcidin over-expression failed to exhibit the expected increase in hemoglobin in response to testosterone administration. Testosterone upregulated splenic ferroportin expression and reduced iron retention in spleen. After intravenous administration of transferrin-bound (58) Fe, the amount of (58) Fe incorporated into red blood cells was significantly greater in testosterone-treated mice than in placebo-treated mice. Serum from testosterone-treated mice stimulated hemoglobin synthesis in K562 erythroleukemia cells more than that from vehicle-treated mice. Testosterone administration promoted the association of androgen receptor (AR) with Smad1 and Smad4 to reduce their binding to bone morphogenetic protein (BMP)-response elements in hepcidin promoter in the liver. Ectopic expression of AR in hepatocytes suppressed hepcidin transcription; this effect was blocked dose-dependently by AR antagonist flutamide. Testosterone did not affect hepcidin mRNA stability. In conclusion, testosterone inhibits hepcidin transcription through its interaction with BMP/Smad signaling. Testosterone administration is associated with increased iron incorporation into red blood cells.
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J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Oct;95(10):4743-7. doi: 10.1210/jc.2010-0864. Epub 2010 Jul 21.
Testosterone suppresses hepcidin in men: a potential mechanism for testosterone-induced erythrocytosis.

Bachman E1, Feng R, Travison T, Li M, Olbina G, Ostland V, Ulloor J, Zhang A, Basaria S, Ganz T, Westerman M, Bhasin S.
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CONTEXT:
The mechanisms by which testosterone increases hemoglobin and hematocrit are unknown.
OBJECTIVE:
The aim was to test the hypothesis that testosterone-induced increase in hematocrit is associated with suppression of the iron regulatory peptide hepcidin.
PARTICIPANTS:
Healthy younger men (ages 19-35 yr; n = 53) and older men (ages 59-75 yr; n = 56) were studied.
METHODS:
Weekly doses of testosterone enanthate (25, 50, 125, 300, and 600 mg) were administered over 20 wk, whereas endogenous testosterone was suppressed by monthly GnRH agonist administration. Blood and serum parameters from each individual were measured at wk 0, 1, 2, 4, 8, and 20. Longitudinal analyses were performed to examine the relationship between hepcidin, hemoglobin, hematocrit, and testosterone while controlling for potential confounders.
RESULTS:
High levels of testosterone markedly suppressed serum hepcidin within 1 wk. Hepcidin suppression in response to testosterone administration was dose-dependent in older men and more pronounced than in young men, and this corresponded to a greater rise in hemoglobin in older men. Serum hepcidin levels at 4 and 8 wk were predictive of change in hematocrit from baseline to peak levels.
CONCLUSION:
Testosterone administration is associated with suppression of serum hepcidin. Greater increases in hematocrit in older men during testosterone therapy are related to greater suppression of hepcidin.
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J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Jun;95(6):2560-75. doi: 10.1210/jc.2009-2575.
Clinical review 1: Adverse effects of testosterone therapy in adult men: a systematic review and meta-analysis.

FernŠndez-Balsells MM1, Murad MH, Lane M, Lampropulos JF, Albuquerque F, Mullan RJ, Agrwal N, Elamin MB, Gallegos-Orozco JF, Wang AT, Erwin PJ, Bhasin S, Montori VM.
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The risks of testosterone therapy in men remain poorly understood.
OBJECTIVE:
The aim of this study was to conduct a systematic review and meta-analyses of testosterone trials to evaluate the adverse effects of testosterone treatment in men.
DATA SOURCES:
We searched MEDLINE, EMBASE, and Cochrane CENTRAL from 2003 through August 2008. Review of reference lists and contact with experts further identified candidate studies.
STUDY SELECTION:
Eligible studies were comparative, randomized, and nonrandomized and reported the effects of testosterone on outcomes of interest (death, cardiovascular events and risk factors, prostate outcomes, and erythrocytosis). Reviewers, working independently and in duplicate, determined study eligibility.
DATA EXTRACTION:
Reviewers working independently and in duplicate determined the methodological quality of studies and collected descriptive, quality, and outcome data.
DATA SYNTHESIS:
The methodological quality of the 51 included studies varied from low to medium, and follow-up duration ranged from 3 months to 3 yr. Testosterone treatment was associated with a significant increase in hemoglobin [weighted mean difference (WMD), 0.80 g/dl; 95% confidence interval (CI), 0.45 to 1.14] and hematocrit (WMD, 3.18%; 95% CI, 1.35 to 5.01), and a decrease in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (WMD, -0.49 mg/dl; 95% CI, -0.85 to -0.13). There was no significant effect on mortality, prostate, or cardiovascular outcomes.
CONCLUSIONS:
The adverse effects of testosterone therapy include an increase in hemoglobin and hematocrit and a small decrease in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol. These findings are of unknown clinical significance. Current evidence about the safety of testosterone treatment in men in terms of patient-important outcomes is of low quality and is hampered by the brief study follow-up.
PMID: 20525906 DOI: 10.1210/jc.2009-2575
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J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Mar;93(3):914-9. Epub 2007 Dec 26.
Effects of graded doses of testosterone on erythropoiesis in healthy young and older men.

Coviello AD1, Kaplan B, Lakshman KM, Chen T, Singh AB, Bhasin S.
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Erythrocytosis is a dose-limiting adverse effect of testosterone therapy, especially in older men.
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Our objective was to compare the dose-related changes in hemoglobin and hematocrit in young and older men and determine whether age-related differences in erythropoietic response to testosterone can be explained by changes in erythropoietin and soluble transferrin receptor (sTfR) levels.
DESIGN:
We conducted a secondary analysis of data from a testosterone dose-response study in young and older men who received long-acting GnRH agonist monthly plus one of five weekly doses of testosterone enanthate (25, 50, 125, 300, or 600 mg im) for 20 wk.
SETTING:
The study took place at a General Clinical Research Center.
PARTICIPANTS:
Participants included 60 older men aged 60-75 yr and 61 young men aged 19-35 yr.
OUTCOME MEASURES:
Outcome measures included hematocrit and hemoglobin and serum erythropoietin and sTfR levels.
RESULTS:
Hemoglobin and hematocrit increased significantly in a linear, dose-dependent fashion in both young and older men in response to graded doses of testosterone (P<0.0001). The increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit were significantly greater in older than young men. There was no significant difference in percent change from baseline in erythropoietin or sTfR levels across groups in either young or older men. Changes in erythropoietin or sTfR levels were not significantly correlated with changes in total or free testosterone levels.
CONCLUSIONS:
Testosterone has a dose-dependent stimulatory effect on erythropoiesis in men that is more pronounced in older men. The testosterone-induced rise in hemoglobin and hematocrit and age-related differences in response to testosterone therapy may be mediated by factors other than erythropoietin and sTfR.
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I canít remember what my hematocrit was but my hemoglobin was 25. My doctors didnít know how to get anyone to take my blood. They had to callout a company to come do it while i was at the hospital. They charged me $2,000 to take 500ccs of my freaking blood out. After that I just drained it myself. Talk about ridiculous! I told the doctor to write a script so blood banks would do it and he said he had never heard of that.
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I would honestly get off everything except TRT (if you're prescribed) and speak with your doctor immediately. The best route would be to go directly to a hematologist. Good luck and keep us posted.
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I would honestly get off everything except TRT (if you're prescribed) and speak with your doctor immediately. The best route would be to go directly to a hematologist. Good luck and keep us posted.
Already have a referral to a hematologist and have been off everything for 5 weeks. I am taking GW and Mk
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I canít remember what my hematocrit was but my hemoglobin was 25. My doctors didnít know how to get anyone to take my blood. They had to callout a company to come do it while i was at the hospital. They charged me $2,000 to take 500ccs of my freaking blood out. After that I just drained it myself. Talk about ridiculous! I told the doctor to write a script so blood banks would do it and he said he had never heard of that.
Wtf, Some of these doctors are shit
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