How can some people use so much gear and never get sick?

[MrCyp]

I cant use shit without getting sick. Simple test and deca im ok but literally im on my 2nd day of tren at only 50mg ED and I instantly get the flu. Its not the quality either, its top notch stuff. Same with something like adrol. 50mg for a few days and bam, i've got the flu. Fast esters the same. The worst was suspension, I only took like 30mg ED and got the flu with aches and chills a few days later. I have buddies who take 150mg tren ED and never even get as much as a stuffy nose. I always get the same damn symptoms. Its always body aches/chills and bedridden. 600-800mg ibprophen totally takes the pain away but its just weird. No other symptoms like no stuffy nose, no sore throat, no upset stomach,etc...

 

[rippedout]

Genetics.

 

[Creation]

yup same reason we cant all achieve what the pros do

 

[MrCyp]

yah but they dont look any better(the people i know) some look terrible, yet they can handle insane amounts of gear. This cant be genetics. Its gotta be something else.

 

[Oldlifter]

yah but they dont look any better(the people i know) some look terrible, yet they can handle insane amounts of gear. This cant be genetics. Its gotta be something else.

Immune system.




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[EDED]

Immune system.




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lol

which comes down to....

genetics

mr. cyp,,,,childcare or people work with kids or public setting,,,do ALL of them get sick? Do ALL kids get sick??? all three pepole i lived with got terribly ill i did my best to stay away from them but what about door knobs, fridge handles, remote controller, shitter, etc etc...i was definitely exposed to some pathogens...did not get sick. im sure you have similar stories

now ask those people if they get sick easily or do you get sick easily, when do you get sick and etc, maybe you can find answer there but in the end, AAS affects every cell in your body lets not forget that.

 

[Massive G]

It's not human grade-it's that simple-most of the time it is related to solvent levels as well as the purity of the products-made with low grade USP materials.

I am not going to get into an argument about it-I have stated it many times.

You never saw or heard of the test flu or anyone getting solvent sterile abcesses from AAS made under regulated conditions in the US in the 1980's and 1990's.

Even "human grade" gear can light you up if the solvent level is too high aka sustanon preloads and even though this stretches the word "human grade" compounded gear.

The worst case of solvent fever I ever got was with scripted compounded test and deca over 20% solvent levels, that's when I learned back then to dilute bake and filter rather than sit and suffer.

It's funny but after the massive amount of busts in Raw Deal -the information came out about where the compounding factories were getting their powders from China-GH and AAS and they showed some of the back rooms this gear was being compounded in by non pharmacists-kind of disturbing.

What's the use of cycling if you are too sick to train?

 

[Oldlifter]

lol

which comes down to....

genetics

Not necessarily. Ones immune system can be influenced by lifestyle/environment/etc. Genetics can play, but not AWAYS the culprit.





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[concreteguy]

I cant use shit without getting sick. Simple test and deca im ok but literally im on my 2nd day of tren at only 50mg ED and I instantly get the flu. Its not the quality either, its top notch stuff. Same with something like adrol. 50mg for a few days and bam, i've got the flu. Fast esters the same. The worst was suspension, I only took like 30mg ED and got the flu with aches and chills a few days later. I have buddies who take 150mg tren ED and never even get as much as a stuffy nose. I always get the same damn symptoms. Its always body aches/chills and bedridden. 600-800mg ibprophen totally takes the pain away but its just weird. No other symptoms like no stuffy nose, no sore throat, no upset stomach,etc...

Without arguing back and forth and going back to when the world was created just take an antihistamine while doing your meds. Thank me later

 

[eroc613]

I personally have had more problems with prescriptions.

But it's still genetics. You can have bad stucture, but put on massive amounts of muscle. Both are geneitcs.

Some people get all the genetics. (stucture, growth, & immune system)

 

[mac3434]

It's not human grade-it's that simple-most of the time it is related to solvent levels as well as the purity of the products-made with low grade USP materials.

I am not going to get into an argument about it-I have stated it many times.

You never saw or heard of the test flu or anyone getting solvent sterile abcesses from AAS made under regulated conditions in the US in the 1980's and 1990's.

Even "human grade" gear can light you up if the solvent level is too high aka sustanon preloads and even though this stretches the word "human grade" compounded gear.

The worst case of solvent fever I ever got was with scripted compounded test and deca over 20% solvent levels, that's when I learned back then to dilute bake and filter rather than sit and suffer.

It's funny but after the massive amount of busts in Raw Deal -the information came out about where the compounding factories were getting their powders from China-GH and AAS and they showed some of the back rooms this gear was being compounded in by non pharmacists-kind of disturbing.

What's the use of cycling if you are too sick to train?

exellent post
that s why some pharma grade products come in lower mg/ml (250mg/2ml for example) the difference is noticeable.

 

[silverback97]

I know that I am going to beat up for this...but I really do not care!
The whole genetics thing I really think has been used for to many excuses for individuals to use for their reason NOT to succeed! Now I am not saying that they do not or cannot play a roll in certain situations but we must stop giving it as much credit as it gets...
In this bro's case I would look at his immune system...which is more tied to his daily life than genetics. As a post stated some professionals have a higher immune system than others; nurses, prison guards, police, fire, EMT are going to be more immune to contagous things like viruses but people that work outside year round; construction, road crews etc... "could" be more immune to colds...
My advice would be increase vitamins that support a stonger immune system...?

 

[Nssca]

I know that I am going to beat up for this...but I really do not care!
The whole genetics thing I really think has been used for to many excuses for individuals to use for their reason NOT to succeed! Now I am not saying that they do not or cannot play a roll in certain situations but we must stop giving it as much credit as it gets...
In this bro's case I would look at his immune system...which is more tied to his daily life than genetics. As a post stated some professionals have a higher immune system than others; nurses, prison guards, police, fire, EMT are going to be more immune to contagous things like viruses but people that work outside year round; construction, road crews etc... "could" be more immune to colds...
My advice would be increase vitamins that support a stonger immune system...?

I totally agree bro.
The excuse of genetics is used more than any excuse. Its the default mode for everything that goes wrong regarding this sport.
If Gear is causing you to get sick, I would look more closely at your training schedule. Sounds like your over training when you on cycle and should back off to say everyother day or maybe less. However to much BA/solvents will cause some people to get sick...I've experienced this as well....IP's shit used to kill me for days I couldn't get out of bed or off the couch.
Don't know if its still is as strong but maybe not these days.

 

[e6er]

The "flu" you are getting is most likely your body's reaction to injecting foreign substances into your body, it's sort of a defense mechanism. It's your bodies way of telling you to knock it off.

 

[UglyDucklingSyndrome]

Genetics do play a role because you're either blessed with something or not. But not only does his current lifestyle have to do with it but how he was raised. Was he breastfed? Did he get vaccinated or was his immune system allowed to grow by itself? There are a lot of factors that contribute to the way your body works. Think of your body as a machine. If one aspect is not on the same level as everything else it will slow or harm the other parts.

 

[Stewie Griffon]

I totally agree bro.
The excuse of genetics is used more than any excuse. Its the default mode for everything that goes wrong regarding this sport.

couldn't have said it better. genetics is always the excuse, cause its the only thing not able to be controlled.

 

[wasp]

the same reason some can smoke forever and not get cancer

 

[1love]

Yeah, I am going to agree. Genetics was used too generically in this thread. However I do believe it is a huge factor in many parts of BBuilding and other things in life. Genetics has nothing to do if someone destroys or lowers their immune system throughout their lifetime and becomes more vulnerable to certain compounds of chemicals. Plus I would say it's something to do with the gear as well.

 

[silverback97]

Well lets not loose focus on our Bro's issue...which is gear in certain dosage makes him ill...
Now, many of you are way smarter than me on this issue...lets try to help him. Now correct me if I am wrong so I can learn also...

But isnt there different types of oil? peanut, cottonseed...etc could it be a allergic reaction to one of those?

If the gear is suspended in water could there be bacteria?

I do not know I am trying to get all of you more knowledgable peps thinking...

 

[MrCyp]

Without arguing back and forth and going back to when the world was created just take an antihistamine while doing your meds. Thank me later

Really which do you recommend and at what dose? I may try this.