Microwaves

[Ivan]

Originally Posted by BigChef

Consider this. Cooking food way too fast is very un-natural in a microwave and it's not a complete cooking process. The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your blood and immune system. Tell me, why the Russians banned Microwave from 1976 to this day? There have been very few scientific studies done on the effect of eating food microwaved food. This is rather surprising when you think about the fact that microwaves have been with us for only a few decades - and that in that time the incidence of many diseases has continued to increase.

Here are the Scientific evidence:


1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:
* d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
* Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
* Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
* Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains;
2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way;
3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous cells in blood;
6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function;
9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
* A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
* Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
* Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
* Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

The purpose of this report is to show proof - evidence - that microwave cooking is not natural, nor healthy, and is far more dangerous to the human body than anyone could imagine.The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food. Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer world wide.

Ouch! I am always heating up leftovers in the microwave! I do use my little toaster oven a lot more, but still...this is a little unnerving to say the least. I always thought that all microwaves did was "move" or stimulate the atoms in water and fat, and the faster they moved the hotter they became. I do know that if you slow atoms down they cool -- but this would not work conventionally because we are talking subzero temps in seconds!

[Oldlifter]

Originally Posted by BigChef

Consider this. Cooking food way too fast is very un-natural in a microwave and it's not a complete cooking process. The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your blood and immune system. Tell me, why the Russians banned Microwave from 1976 to this day? There have been very few scientific studies done on the effect of eating food microwaved food. This is rather surprising when you think about the fact that microwaves have been with us for only a few decades - and that in that time the incidence of many diseases has continued to increase.

Here are the Scientific evidence:


1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:
* d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
* Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
* Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
* Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains;
2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way;
3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous cells in blood;
6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function;
9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
* A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
* Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
* Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
* Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

The purpose of this report is to show proof - evidence - that microwave cooking is not natural, nor healthy, and is far more dangerous to the human body than anyone could imagine.The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food. Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer world wide.

Wonderful news! *LOL*. My kids use it religiously! I keep telling them, to cook. Thanks for the post bro!


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[Stewie Griffon]

Originally Posted by BigChef

Consider this. Cooking food way too fast is very un-natural in a microwave and it's not a complete cooking process. The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your blood and immune system. Tell me, why the Russians banned Microwave from 1976 to this day? There have been very few scientific studies done on the effect of eating food microwaved food. This is rather surprising when you think about the fact that microwaves have been with us for only a few decades - and that in that time the incidence of many diseases has continued to increase.

Here are the Scientific evidence:


1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:
* d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
* Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
* Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
* Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains;
2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way;
3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous cells in blood;
6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function;
9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
* A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
* Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
* Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
* Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

The purpose of this report is to show proof - evidence - that microwave cooking is not natural, nor healthy, and is far more dangerous to the human body than anyone could imagine.The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food. Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer world wide.

where was the list found? who published it?

[Earthworm]

THANKS BIGCHEF , i was wanting to find some studys on microwaving food. I guess i'm buying a toaster oven for work.

[BigChef]

Originally Posted by Stewie Griffon

where was the list found? who published it?

Microwave Ovens - The Proven Dangers

There are lots of information out there regarding the dangers of the Microwave. Personally I would never used it. One time I saw a Chef putting a steak in the Microwave and it turn rubber. Bloody disgusting!
People using microwave to defrost items, also very dangerous and it's not HACCP.

[totalrecomp]

I only use it for oats. I coworker of mine will cook his chicken nuggets in the plastic wrap they come in all the time. I try to tell him how bad that must be considering how cheep that plastic is but he always replies, "I don't care!"

[BigChef]

Originally Posted by Ivan

Ouch! I am always heating up leftovers in the microwave! I do use my little toaster oven a lot more, but still...this is a little unnerving to say the least. I always thought that all microwaves did was "move" or stimulate the atoms in water and fat, and the faster they moved the hotter they became. I do know that if you slow atoms down they cool -- but this would not work conventionally because we are talking subzero temps in seconds!

I saw some info on the net somewhere about baby bottle went into the microwave just to heat up few secs and the Mother felt it as it was luke warm on the outside but the baby die (I think) or got serious burns inside the baby's body. Quite scary!

Originally Posted by Oldlifter

Wonderful news! *LOL*. My kids use it religiously! I keep telling them, to cook. Thanks for the post bro!


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Your welcome bro lol

[jalsmiley]

the problem with what you posted bigchef(and again, im not saying you are wrong or right...i search hard for concrete facts)is that all the stuff you cited is result of two peoples writing...both in terms of science are ancient, they are from this or even last decade i think from what i read! and they actually dont say much about the studies themselves...
i searched the word d-Nitrosodiethanolamine and if you notice all the results are worded the exact same way that you posted...actually the whole thing is just an excerpt from a guys book who is anti microwaves who then claims his writing are based on a guy from russia studies...kind of hearsay.

i will keep looking but if anyone finds any recent studies from accredited universities or agencies etc please post them, this is very interesting the lack of recent studies at all, it be nice to know if i eating garbage since nuking my food!ha

[godzillaballs]

Originally Posted by BigChef

Consider this. Cooking food way too fast is very un-natural in a microwave and it's not a complete cooking process. The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your blood and immune system. Tell me, why the Russians banned Microwave from 1976 to this day? There have been very few scientific studies done on the effect of eating food microwaved food. This is rather surprising when you think about the fact that microwaves have been with us for only a few decades - and that in that time the incidence of many diseases has continued to increase.

Here are the Scientific evidence:


1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:
* d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
* Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
* Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
* Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains;
2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way;
3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous cells in blood;
6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function;
9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
* A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
* Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
* Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
* Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

The purpose of this report is to show proof - evidence - that microwave cooking is not natural, nor healthy, and is far more dangerous to the human body than anyone could imagine.The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food. Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer world wide.

You're going to have a pull a WAY better source than that to convince me in any regard, man.

And saying "microwaving food releases carcinogens" means nothing. Cooking food over a fire produces carcinogens. Coffee, cinnamon, black pepper, fruits, etc. all have natural carcinogens. And these are just the small fraction of food chemicals we have TESTED with countless others that are also bound to be carcinogens that we've never actually looked at.

[BigChef]

Originally Posted by jalsmiley

the problem with what you posted bigchef(and again, im not saying you are wrong or right...i search hard for concrete facts)is that all the stuff you cited is result of two peoples writing...both in terms of science are ancient, they are from this or even last decade i think from what i read! and they actually dont say much about the studies themselves...
i searched the word d-Nitrosodiethanolamine and if you notice all the results are worded the exact same way that you posted...actually the whole thing is just an excerpt from a guys book who is anti microwaves who then claims his writing are based on a guy from russia studies...kind of hearsay.

i will keep looking but if anyone finds any recent studies from accredited universities or agencies etc please post them, this is very interesting the lack of recent studies at all, it be nice to know if i eating garbage since nuking my food!ha

Good ahead and nuke your food! So what happens when you nuke your food in a microwave oven? Well, for a start you're not nuking it: you're actually heating it with low frequency electromagnetic energy, the energy is lower than light, another form of electromagnetic energy. Microwaves penetrate more deeply than light, and heat food by rapidly vibrating water molecules.


Are Our Microwave Ovens Killing Us? | Charles Hamel.com

This study done at the University of California at the Davis Medical Center learned that diethylhexyladeptate or (DEHA), considered a carcinogen, is found in plastic wrap, and that the FDA had never studied the effect of microwave cooking on plastic wrapped food. With the help of Dr John Wilkes at the National Center for Toxicology Research tests were done on plastic wrap in olive oil. There were four different plastic wraps tried in the tests and the results were frightening. Not only were the carcinogens found in the plastic wrap but also xenoestrogen was migrating into the oil.

[BigChef]

Originally Posted by godzillaballs

You're going to have a pull a WAY better source than that to convince me in any regard, man.

And saying "microwaving food releases carcinogens" means nothing. Cooking food over a fire produces carcinogens. Coffee, cinnamon, black pepper, fruits, etc. all have natural carcinogens. And these are just the small fraction of food chemicals we have TESTED with countless others that are also bound to be carcinogens that we've never actually looked at.

The combination of fat, high heat and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body.

Dioxin are carcinogens and highly toxic to the cells of our bodies.

[jamez]

lols.. It seems like every other day there's some new cooky claims on this board.. bodybuilders may be the biggest group of conspiracy nuts there are .. and more surprisingly how many of you just believed it without any researching of your own...

Nutritional benefits of microwaving.

"Although you may think that microwaving is an "easy-way-out," using a microwave to cook your food has its nutritional benefits. More vitamins and minerals are retained with microwave cooking than with many other methods of cooking. This is because microwave cooking requires a shorter cooking time, covered cooking and little to no water. Too much water, surface exposure and overcooking can rob foods of nutrients."
-- Yale-New Haven Hospital

According to the American Institute for Cancer Research comprehensive report on diet and its relationship to cancer prevention (titled, "Food, Nutrition, Physical Activity and the Prevention of Cancer")... whose recommendations were created by a panel of 21 renowned researchers and peer-reviewed by additional researchers:

"Microwaves are a form of electromagnetic radiation. They cause vibration of water molecules, which produces heat. There is no evidence that microwaves have any specific effect on food composition beyond that of heat."

This one directly debunks a list similar to what bigchef provided..
Reverse Magazine: Is Cooking in a Microwave Dangerous or Unhealthy?

I first learned about the claims of danger from a chain email sent by a friend of mine who tends to believe anything that's anti-establishment or on the fringe. A few Internet searches of some keywords reveal a huge number of holistic, organic, and other alternative web sites repeating these same claims. Just to give you a flavor of how far-out these stories are, give a listen to this list of "Ten Reasons to Throw Out Your Microwave Oven". As I read these off, notice that not one of them makes a specific or testable claim; they are all merely scary sentences constructed using scientific sounding words. And, as you can tell from the brief description of how microwaves work, few of these have any remote connection to fact

Myth Blaster – Microwave Cooking Lighthouse Patriot Journal

The Straight Dope: Does microwaving kill nutrients in food? Is microwaving safe?

[jamez]

Originally Posted by BigChef

Tell me, why the Russians banned Microwave from 1976 to this day?

you should really check where you get your information from

The Microwave Militia also makes claims such as microwave ovens are illegal in Russia or other parts of Europe. This is just a straight-up lie. Microwaves are perfectly legal in Russia and everywhere else in Europe. In fact I was not able to find a single country in the world that bans microwave ovens.

Death in Your Kitchen: Microwave Ovens

The FDA has found that microwaves do not hinder the nutritional values of food. This was mostly what I was concerned about because I trust laboratory studies by Harvard and the FDA over some so-called Russian experimentation conducted in the 1970s that has produced no documented results.

Microwave ovens may not be as popular as elsewhere in Russia (mostly because of non-affordable electricity) – but they are not outlawed or illegal. Microwave ovens are sold everywhere in the world.

http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-Emittin.../ucm142616.htm

Case closed.

[BigChef]

Originally Posted by godzillaballs

You're going to have a pull a WAY better source than that to convince me in any regard, man.

And saying "microwaving food releases carcinogens" means nothing. Cooking food over a fire produces carcinogens. Coffee, cinnamon, black pepper, fruits, etc. all have natural carcinogens. And these are just the small fraction of food chemicals we have TESTED with countless others that are also bound to be carcinogens that we've never actually looked at.

Originally Posted by jamez

you should really check where you get your information from


I am not going to argue with you but we are all entitled to our opinion. Being a Chef for over 20 years, I know alot of my Chef mates do not like the Microwave cooking. There is alot of info saying they are safe and some saying they are not safe. But I personally would not use it. End of story!


Case closed.

I am not going to argue with you but we are all entitled to our opinion. Being a Chef for over 20 years, I know alot of my Chef mates do not like the Microwave cooking. There is alot of info saying they are safe and some saying they are not safe. But I personally would not use it. End of story!

[jamez]

Originally Posted by BigChef

I am not going to argue with you but we are all entitled to our opinion.

Yes we are entitled to opinions.. but you stated as fact that microwaves were illegal in russia.. which is not true.

Originally Posted by BigChef

Being a Chef for over 20 years, I know alot of my Chef mates do not like the Microwave cooking.

I think we can all agree it tastes better without a microwave. But it's certainly not dangerous to heat up your food in one

[Oldlifter]

Can any one give reliable sources to refute, BigChefs claims. Been doing a litte research myself, from what I've learned, it's common knowledge, regarding the "dangers" of microwaves.

I know one thing, for show, you don't want to have any heart issues that require a device buried in your chest!



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[BigChef]

[QUOTE=jamez;735132]lols.. It seems like every other day there's some new cooky claims on this board.. bodybuilders may be the biggest group of conspiracy nuts there are .. and more surprisingly how many of you just believed it without any researching of your own...


So what you saying here? There is some cooky claim on this board meaning me?

[godzillaballs]

Originally Posted by Oldlifter

Can any one give reliable sources to refute, BigChefs claims. Been doing a litte research myself, from what I've learned, it's common knowledge, regarding the "dangers" of microwaves.

It's widespread belief, but that doesn't make it knowledge. Counterarguments and sources have already been provided.

[Oldlifter]

Originally Posted by godzillaballs

It's widespread belief, but that doesn't make it knowledge. Counterarguments and sources have already been provided.

Well, how do we know who is right? this is the major problem. *LOL* Both can't be right, right?


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[jamez]

Originally Posted by Oldlifter

Well, how do we know who is right? this is the major problem. *LOL* Both can't be right, right?

I already quoted the real science vs the quacks.

The FDA, Harvard, Yale and well respected scientists found no dangers in microwaved food. The quacks using fake big words, quoting fake russian laws, and undocumented 1970's experiments said different. Gee.. who to believe?