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Manual for Helios use

freakofnature

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I've gotten a few PM's concerning Helios and figured this might help some. I'm not the Author and don't know who originally wrote it but I'm a big fan of Helios and the man that found this for me...GOOD BROTHER.




Found this useful info on Helios:

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Helios was originally developed by an idea from the legendary body-building guru Dan Duchaine. Generic Supplements is selling this extremely potent solution on the bodybuilding market. The ingredients (Clenbuterol and Yohimbine HCL) are forbidden in almost every country, as well as administration via injection. This is only allowed by a doctor or medical trained nurse. But this form of administration is also the best way for spot reduction.

The art of spot reduction.

When you begin a diet, you may notice that you lose fat very unevenly on your body. The areas you don't wish to concentrate your fat loss seem to be most responsive to the restriction of calories. On the other hand, the areas you desire to shed fat seem to be unaffected by the diet. In women, the breasts may be shrinking, while the lower body remains as fat as it was. In men, even if the waist is getting smaller, the abs are not getting any more visible. Why put your body through a tough and often unhealthy diet if unwanted inches of fat remain? What we want is a specifically targeted fat loss, but we are told that spot reduction is impossible! Is this true?

Rather than an overall and even fat reduction, the weight loss will be more "spot specific". Popular belief is that we can not spot reduce fat. This is however a myth, because the human body does, but unfortunately it doesn't necessarily do it in the places we wish it to. What we have to do, is to redirect the fat destruction in areas we want to shrink rather than everywhere else. Please realise that your abs are not covered by that much fat. Imagine if one could concentrate the fat loss exclusively in that particular area. It is the same thing for the women who could easily lose their lower body fat by strictly concentrating the fat reduction there.

Best sites for application as mentioned above are the triceps, "love handles", thighs, glutes and the "saddle bags" or waist (basically any area that has fat accumulation). These areas will vary from person to person, though the above listed are the most common. The fat that fails to disappear even through a strict diet is called "stubborn fat". Typically, so called stubborn fat is estrogenic by nature, however some people just have high numbers of A2 receptors. The A2 receptor is highly influenced by oestrogen if you are a women, and if you have estrogenic fat patterns you most likely have large numbers of A2 receptors.

Yohimbine HCL

The reason why 'Yohimbine hcl' is included in Helios is that it binds to the A2 receptor and blocks Norepinephrine(and other A2 agonist including oestrogen) from binding to, and antagonizing it (which inhibits the release of fatty acids). It thus allows for fatty acids to be "burned", hence the stubborn fat will be lost. These two ingredients, Yohimbine and clenbuterol , ‘speed up’ the metabolism of the injected area and provoke a chemical reaction that change fat cells into fatty acids, which will slip through cell membranes and into the bloodstream to be burned. If you don’t burn the freed fatty acids through a firm aerobic workout, your body will store them again in fatty deposits.


Side effects which may occur are loss of appetite, tremors, dizziness, nervousness, restlessness, irregular heart beat, nausea, excessive sweating, diarrhoea and it is also possible to experience other complications due to the weight, or body fat percentage loss that results from its use.

Why do we spot reduce upside down naturally?

There are two main mediators of fat mobilization. One consists of the circulating hormones such as norepinephrine. They stumble upon fat stores by chance, and will do little to spot reduce. By using oral clenbuterol, we increase the circulation of those lipolytic factors, but we do not truly redirect spot reduction the way we wish to. The chances are, we accentuate the spot reduction in the wrong places. The second pathway is far more interesting. All our adipose stores are innervated by the nervous system a bit like our muscles are. In other words, our brain is directly related to each of our adipose depots. Through the nervous system, the brain can then send neurotransmitters in whatever depot it wishes. Those neurotransmitters (epinephrine and norepinephrine) happen to be the main direct lipolytic hormones. It means that potentially our brain possesses the ability to allow us to spot reduce at will, by sending fat loss mediators in very specific depots. The problem is we do not know how to redirect our brain efforts to help us spot reduce. This is why we spot reduce in the wrong areas: i.e. the places the brain local efforts are the most intense versus the places were it is the laziest.

So, if the brain does not wish to send enough fat loss hormones to the specific areas we want to get rid of, we can do it ourselves by locally injecting those hormones. This way, we can redirect lipolysis where we wish to. It is now possible to spot reduce at will! Whenever I say this, people will get over excited, believing that a single subcutaneous injection will immediately destroy all the fat present. This is not the case as other anti-lipolytic forces are also at play to prevent that. But after a month of local injections plus a proper diet, you will clearly see that those formerly resistant areas are not as hard to get rid of as before. Fat loss will be more evenly distributed, which will indirectly spare muscle mass. In effect, with a classical diet, when you have lost most of your fat except that around the waist, what do you do? Diet harder which translates into an intense muscle cannibalization and a minimal eradication of the waist's fat. By using local injections, this classical suicidal period can be avoided.

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Helios is available in 50 ml and 20 ml (1) Clean the rubber septum of the vial with an alcohol swab and stick the needle through the septum. Turn the vial upside down, and inject as much air as you want to pull out, this to prevent a vacuum. Pull the top of the needle in the fluid and pull out as much fluid as you and your buddy need (2). Inject the fluid in a sterile container (cleaned with alcohol too) (3), or suck the fluid directly from the big syringe into the insulin pin, after removing the needle. Suck the fluid into a insulin syringe (4). All individuals should use their own pin. The pins can be stored in a tupperware box in the refrigerator and used about three days, you’ll notice it when they become less sharp. The Helios itself should be stored in a cool dark place too, preferably a refrigerator, as well.

How to proceed?

Idealistically, you have a training buddy or friend that wants to loose fat the same way. The first time you use Helios is comparable with the first time you used coffee. The active ingredient in coffee (caffeine) gives the same effects as clenbuterol, it makes you sweat, nervous and your heartbeat increases. This off course is dose dependant, and each individual will be different. Your body will quickly adapt to the use of Helios, and allow you to raise the used doses. Start with two to four shots with a very low dose (we suggest 40 iu - 0,4 ml) on the same place on the left- and right side of your body. If you handle it well, increase the dosages possibly through several shots spread locally over the fat area. This will allow you to cover a larger fat area with a single injection. The fat loss drugs are more evenly spread on the "to be destroyed" area. Try to hit different parts of the deposit each time so that every fat cell gets abbreviated with some adipose destructor. Ideally, this should be done first thing in the morning on an empty stomach before aerobic training. Once you are used to it, you can drink one or two cups of coffee between the injections and the aerobic workout. This will amplify the effect of the Helios. Understand that the injections will only force the local fat to leave its adipose reserve and to pass in the blood. Fat molecules have not been destroyed yet. The aerobic training has to take care of that (along with the help of the night time fast). Some also use appetite suppressants like Meridia or thyroid hormones.
 
And another one:

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Helios specifically contains a mixture of clenbuterol hcl and yohimbine hcl, a
potent beta agonist and alpha
antagonist respectively. These two drugs are present in a concentration of
40mcg/mL (clenbuterol) and
5.4mg/mL (yohimbine), a balanced and appropriately dosed mixture for
bodybuilding use. Clenbuterol and
yohimbine work to promote fat loss through the same system(androgenic), however
they exert their effects
through very distinct(but complementary) mechanisms. Clenbuterol, of course, is
a potent beta-2 agoinst,
which directly and strongly stimulaters lipolysis very much in the same way as
ephedrine does(though it is
more selctive in its actions). Yohimbine hcl is alpha-2 receptor antagonist,
which also promotes fat loss
mainly by blocking the activity of other chemicals in the body.

Helios is a drug therapy medication specifically designed for the body building
community. Based on a system
which was originally a medical technique devised in 1952 by Dr Michel Pistor.
Similar in effect to
phosphatidylcholine solution but without the associated expense of this
medication which is commonly used in
plastic surgery. Helios unlike phosphatidylcholine requires a frequent injection
protocol. Whereas the
pharmaceutical grade phosphatidylcholine solution, can be injected at up to 2
week intervals, helios due to
it’s clenbuterol base should be injected at least every second day. This is not
very suitable for most
cosmetic surgery patients.

Also known as “fat melt” or “Non-Surgical Fat Dissolve,” drug therapy, offers the
patient an alternative to
surgery. THis therapy is an injection therapy which can be injected into the
subderm which is the layer of
fat under the skin. The medications that are used in drug therapy melt the fat
beneath the skin and shrink
the fat cells in the scarpa fascia layer - some times resulting in a temporary
tough feel to the skin local
to the injection site . The fat dissolves and, as occurs when fat is broken down
during typical weight loss,
is carried through the bloodstream and excreted by kidneys and bowel.

This therapy involves injecting small amounts of medication immediatley beneath
the surface of the skin to
break down the fat and cellulite and to improve circulation and lymphatic and
venous drainage.

The drug HELIOS specifically contains a mixture of clenbuterol hcl
and yohimbine hcl, a potent
beta agonist and alpha antagonist respectively. These two drugs are present in a
concentration of 40mcg/mL
(clenbuterol) and 5mg/mL (yohimbine). Clenbuterol and yohimbine work to promote
fat loss through the same
system (androgenic), however they exert their effects through very distinct (but
complementary) mechanisms.
Clenbuterol, is a potent beta-2 agoinst, which directly and strongly stimulates
lipolysis very much in the
same way as ephedrine does. Yohimbine hcl is alpha-2 receptor antagonist, which
also promotes fat loss
mainly by blocking the activity of other chemicals in the body. The combined
effect is to explode the fat
cells and release the triglicerides into the blood stream for the body to
dispose of naturally. Aerobic
exercise will increase the removal of these triglicerides by increasing the
portion of “good” cholesterol in
the blood stream. It should be noted that exercise is not totally necessary but
it will increase the rate of
localised fat loss.

The combination of clenbuterol and yohimbine in helios has the added benefit of
aiding overall fat loss –
something that the more expensive phosphatidylcholine based products do not. The
down side to this is, as
stated above is the frequency of administration which is not at all suited to
general cosmetic surgery
practice.

Approximately 20-30 minutes post injection the patient may notice some redness,
slight bruising, or
experience a stinging sensation, but rarely are the treatments painful. These
are natural inflammatory
reactions to the emulsion and dispersion of fat, signifying the procedure is
successful. Bruises are seldom.
The fat tissue is broken down by the body through natural processes and then
excreted.

Noticeable localised reductions in fat can be seen within 2 weeks even when the
injection frequency is
limited to every second day. Dramatic fat losses are possible with a daily 1 ml
injection protocol or with
doses greater than 1ml every second day. Doses as high as 5ml per day are
commonly used in the body building
community. However, this is not to be recommended due to the extreme clenbuterol
related side effects that
can occur at such doses.
 
HAD A FEW PEOPLE ASK

I'm not the author but have used both ways. These are of course opinions only.

A good way to cycle Helios:

Clen/Yohimbine

WEEK 1 1/2 CC
WEEK 2 1 CC
WEEK 3 1.5 CC
WEEK 4 2 CC
WEEK 5 2.5 CC
WEEK 6 2 CC
WEEK 7 1 CC
WEEK 8 0.5 CC

T3

7 DAYS @ 12.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 25 MCG
7 DAYS @ 50 MCG
5 DAYS @ 37.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 25 MCG
5 DAYS @ 12.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 6.25 MCG

Using it this way,is smart all around...i didn't feel any downfall once i
seized the T3,because the clen was being run until week 8...intensity in
the gym was still apparent all the way thru and didn't lose any of leanness
post cycle...a diet that worked well on this was the ISOCALORIC diet by Dan
Duchaine...

For those of you wanting to try Helios, here's a schedule I found:

Helios Schedule:

1 OFF
2 OFF Keto .5mg ED
3 ON .5/.5/.5/.5/1/1/1
4 ON 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/2/2
5 ON 2/2/2/2/1.5/1.5/1.5 + Keto .5mg ED
6 OFF Keto 1mg ED
7 OFF
8 OFF Keto .5mg ED
9 ON .5/.5/.5/.5/1/1/1
10 ON 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/2/2
11 ON 2/2/2/2/1.5/1.5/1.5 + Keto .5mg ED
12 OFF Keto 1mg ED
13 OFF
14 OFF
 
"The pins can be stored in a tupperware box in the refrigerator and used about three days, you’ll notice it when they become less sharp"

The author of the first article is suggesting to reuse pins for up to 3 days:confused:

Stupid IMO.

Interesting non the less.

Showy
 
from past experiences, i have found ive been able to go up to about 240mcg of oral clen on my 3rd day of use (i dont get many stim side effects) with the only side effect being the potassium deficiency. from your experience, how do you feel the injectable would compare as far as potency goes? ie, if i were normally to use 120mcg orally, would that be similar to 40mcg injected?
 
"The pins can be stored in a tupperware box in the refrigerator and used about three days, you’ll notice it when they become less sharp"

The author of the first article is suggesting to reuse pins for up to 3 days:confused:

Stupid IMO.

Interesting non the less.

Showy

yeah, that part seemed pretty odd to me, but otherwise good info.
 
I thought a slin pin was to be used for dosing this? Peace.
 
There still isnt any scientific proof that helios can actually spot reduce right? Its mainly bro knowledge. I didnt notice shit for spot reduction. Seemed like GH did a better job and there's not proof that spot reduces either.
 
"The pins can be stored in a tupperware box in the refrigerator and used about three days, you’ll notice it when they become less sharp"

The author of the first article is suggesting to reuse pins for up to 3 days:confused:

Stupid IMO.

Interesting non the less.

Showy

I agree brother and would never re-use a pin either. I will spot inject several times sub q with the same pin while injecting helios, which is similar on how a DR. would inject BOTOX but after its use of one ML, I suggest using another pin also. I suggest never saving the pin for another day or dipping a used pin in your bottle again if injecting more than one Ml.
 
from past experiences, i have found ive been able to go up to about 240mcg of oral clen on my 3rd day of use (i dont get many stim side effects) with the only side effect being the potassium deficiency. from your experience, how do you feel the injectable would compare as far as potency goes? ie, if i were normally to use 120mcg orally, would that be similar to 40mcg injected?

I'm sure you'll be able to ramp up pretty fast brother but always would suggest with Clen starting off lower, than taking to much and having serious issues. 1ml will be fine for your first day, my opinion about Helios is the jitters are much less than with pill form clen and is why it sometimes gets the rep of not working. This isn't true, give it time to work.
 
There still isnt any scientific proof that helios can actually spot reduce right? Its mainly bro knowledge. I didnt notice shit for spot reduction. Seemed like GH did a better job and there's not proof that spot reduces either.

Very true my brother but if you want to get scientific I could name several of the best steroid compounds that also scientifically don't cause muscle growth but are used everyday by most AAS users. These studies conducted are done by Scientist payed for by the GOVERNMENT//OR PHAMACUETICAL COMPANIES to market a product. I therefore would chuck most scientific studies in the garbage. Much respect always...Freakkkk
 
Pain and lumps

I used the helios for about a week. Just started out with 20 mcg and then 40mcg split into two different 20mcg shots alternating sides. I stopped because it made me sore, and now I have the little hard lumps it feels like under the skin. It almost feels like gyno would in beginning stages. Anyone else experience this?? When I flex my abs or pull the skin tight it is not visible, but I can feel it when I palpate the area.
 

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