OFFICIAL GET THE WIFE KNOCKED-UP THREAD

[Ness]

Okay, I was under the impression that running an amp (5000iu split up over 4 weeks) of HCG every 10 weeks while 'on' would maintain my sperm count. While I am fertile (past experiences), I have found out that my sperm count is currently in the dumper. During my research, and bugging the hell out of our greatest members here, I have ran across 3 protocols that are supposed to get the sperm count soaring again.

1. The staying on test protos:

A) HCG 500iu M/W/F, HMG 50iu T/TH/S (alternating days seems to be important here), Clomid 50mg/ed, 200mgs Test weekly. Lastly, add 12.5mgs of Aromasin eod.

B) Humanofort 400mgs ed, Tribestan 1500mgs ed, Test 40mgs weekly (yes, very interesting I agree).

2. Get off test proto: HCG 500iu M/W/F, HMG 50iu T/TH/S, Clomid 50mg/ed, AI.

Other added supps taken daily to help the cause: Zinc, Multi-vit, Vit E.

NOW...staying on low dose test (as I have been for a long time now) seems to make sense to me as the administration of HCG and HMG are exogenous forms of LH and FSH and taking these drugs only reinforce the negative feedback loop to the HPTA so its not going to do-it-on-its-own anyway. As a result, the crash of coming off is really unnecessary to get the job done. Now, if one is trying to recover their functions again, then thats another story. My mission here is simply to get the count up enough to ensure that my wife gets hit with a healthy front-line of soldiers.

Protocol B is very interesting to me. After I received help from a highly respected member on this protocol, I have researched that a super low dose of exogenous test (40mgs/wk) perhaps will replace the need for HCG/HMG?

Anyways, this thread is for all members to chime in on their thoughts and advice. I know what protocol Im going to run, however, Id like to hear what the collective here has to say on the topic. Thanks for the read, and wish me luck!

 

[thatbloke]

id say the last one with some viagra

 

[michelin]

Personally speaking I would come off altogether and then get tested after a period of time. I'd rather be producing my own testosterone however low the count than be supplemented by something from a bottle.

Looks like youve done plenty of homework on this topic and if the respected members you asked have carried out certain protocols and got their ladies pregnant then thats good for them.

Maybe a doctor specialising in these things might offer the best advice?

 

[Ness]

K, can u fellers explain WHY come off test? Im not interested in recovery, just more swimmers.

 

[thatbloke]

K, can u fellers explain WHY come off test? Im not interested in recovery, just more swimmers.

coz in a study TRT as a contraceptive was shown to be more effective then both condoms and the pill in prevernting pregnancy

a quick google search and ull find the study very easily

it also showed once getting off TRT all mens sperm counts returned to nromal ranges

 

[michelin]

K, can u fellers explain WHY come off test? Im not interested in recovery, just more swimmers.

I always believed that taking test eventually supresses all of your own testosterone production and the longer you stay on the longer it takes to get back to a normal range when you eventually come off the gear.

Place in factors like age of subject and how long natural test has been supressed you can often, but not always, find the subject becomes a jaffa and is never able to get back into a range where getting a girl pregnant is possible.

Of course, as with all things, theres exceptions to the rule

 

[rock75]

Okay, I was under the impression that running an amp (5000iu split up over 4 weeks) of HCG every 10 weeks while 'on' would maintain my sperm count. While I am fertile (past experiences), I have found out that my sperm count is currently in the dumper. During my research, and bugging the hell out of our greatest members here, I have ran across 3 protocols that are supposed to get the sperm count soaring again.

1. The staying on test protos:

A) HCG 500iu M/W/F, HMG 50iu T/TH/S (alternating days seems to be important here), Clomid 50mg/ed, 200mgs Test weekly. Lastly, add 12.5mgs of Aromasin eod.

B) Humanofort 400mgs ed, Tribestan 1500mgs ed, Test 40mgs weekly (yes, very interesting I agree).

2. Get off test proto: HCG 500iu M/W/F, HMG 50iu T/TH/S, Clomid 50mg/ed, AI.

Other added supps taken daily to help the cause: Zinc, Multi-vit, Vit E.

NOW...staying on low dose test (as I have been for a long time now) seems to make sense to me as the administration of HCG and HMG are exogenous forms of LH and FSH and taking these drugs only reinforce the negative feedback loop to the HPTA so its not going to do-it-on-its-own anyway. As a result, the crash of coming off is really unnecessary to get the job done. Now, if one is trying to recover their functions again, then thats another story. My mission here is simply to get the count up enough to ensure that my wife gets hit with a healthy front-line of soldiers.

Protocol B is very interesting to me. After I received help from a highly respected member on this protocol, I have researched that a super low dose of exogenous test (40mgs/wk) perhaps will replace the need for HCG/HMG?

Anyways, this thread is for all members to chime in on their thoughts and advice. I know what protocol Im going to run, however, Id like to hear what the collective here has to say on the topic. Thanks for the read, and wish me luck!

Proviron stimulates androgens while having little to no effect on the gonadotrophins, according to a study conducted by Patrick Bye and published in the Postgraduate Medical Journal. Proviron, therefore, is a desirable candidate to treat some male infertility and more studies continue to be conducted.

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[rock75]

Shit, forgot to wish you luck Ness!!! God Bless!!!

 

[ICU11b]

I have seen protocol A work first hand(13 years, non-stop use). So well that his ex wife had to find another excuse to leave him(not me). Originally his Dr. had him on clomid only(50mg e/d), w/ minimal results. Protocol B is a very smart guy & I would seriously consider anything he(E) recommended.

 

[Ness]

coz in a study TRT as a contraceptive was shown to be more effective then both condoms and the pill in prevernting pregnancy

a quick google search and ull find the study very easily

it also showed once getting off TRT all mens sperm counts returned to nromal ranges

Perhaps, but getting off and administering HCG/HMG suppresses a natural recovery anyway.

I always believed that taking test eventually supresses all of your own testosterone production and the longer you stay on the longer it takes to get back to a normal range when you eventually come off the gear.

Place in factors like age of subject and how long natural test has been supressed you can often, but not always, find the subject becomes a jaffa and is never able to get back into a range where getting a girl pregnant is possible.

Of course, as with all things, theres exceptions to the rule

Thank you, but not interested in getting natty test back. Just interested in more swimmers. HMG = exogenous FSH = soilders, yes?

Shit, forgot to wish you luck Ness!!! God Bless!!!

Thanks! I have proviron too...but was trying not to add too many ingredients, but your posted studies do make a great point.

I have seen protocol A work first hand(13 years, non-stop use). So well that his ex wife had to find another excuse to leave him(not me). Originally his Dr. had him on clomid only(50mg e/d), w/ minimal results. Protocol B is a very smart guy & I would seriously consider anything he(E) recommended.

Hmmm. Yes, Id like to pm you if thats cool?

 

[Ness]

HGH

Heard conflicting stuff about HGH. Some say its good for reproductive issues, some say not so much. Thoughts?

 

[Legend10]

My last child came while i was running 750mg-1000mg a week of test and was stacking deca with it..

 

[nikehotel]

Good luck man, I'm in exactly the same boat, I have tried everything....no HPTA recovery yet....sperm count in the 1 million range
I got a slight bump in Sperm production & Test from Admin of Triptorelin, combined with Amridex. All of the doctors I have seen about this are clueless...All they do is handout Clomid. I have tried Dr. Scally's PCT, Clomid Hcg/Novaladex. Clomid/Hcg/Amridex/Tribulis terralis & again with Triptorelin.
Post up if any protocol works for you. I'm out of ideas.

 

[Ness]

Good luck man, I'm in exactly the same boat, I have tried everything....no HPTA recovery yet....sperm count in the 1 million range
I got a slight bump in Sperm production & Test from Admin of Triptorelin, combined with Amridex. All of the doctors I have seen about this are clueless...All they do is handout Clomid. I have tried Dr. Scally's PCT, Clomid Hcg/Novaladex. Clomid/Hcg/Amridex/Tribulis terralis & again with Triptorelin.
Post up if any protocol works for you. I'm out of ideas.

No HGM? Thats the key ingredient as its FSH = Follicle Stimulating Hormone. Follicle meaning sperm.

 

[nikehotel]

nope. Do you have a trade name for it?

 

[jamescb77]

Personally i like B. However with that said i would run far more than 1500 tribulus a day. I would run somewhere near 8000-10000. i believe at the higher doses is where you really get something from trib. I have done PCT's with trib alone and never missed a stepped and these have been long and fairly heavy cycle.

 

[Creation]

coz in a study TRT as a contraceptive was shown to be more effective then both condoms and the pill in prevernting pregnancy

a quick google search and ull find the study very easily

it also showed once getting off TRT all mens sperm counts returned to nromal ranges

interesting

 

[GND123]

I'm in the same boat. Been off since January. Did clomid and hcg for a 3months. Still not preggo.I know hmg is whatsup bit its very expensive. Hopefully some good solid Exp. And info comes up. I'm not sold on the humanofort and tribulus. Anyone have Exp. Woth this combo???

 

[Ness]

I know hmg is whatsup bit its very expensive.

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[ICU11b]

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