Question To those that are on a lot of drugs

[deanabol]

Im not Talking about steroids but medications both prescribed and self prescribed .
I'm on a lot of tablets and really worry about the long term effects

I'm on
Mirtazipine ( precribed anti depressant)
Hydrocortisone (prescribed)
Omeprazole ( prescribed)
Cialis ( self prescribed)
Adex ( self prescribed )
Caber ( self prescribed )

At present all these drugs are pretty essential to me . The self prescribed meds I wouldn't need if I didnt use steroids but when I look at all these drugs I'm taking I feel pretty concerned
Is this out if the uncommon to be on this much shit ?

 

[TNH]

I was really anti drug when I was younger.
I got into AAS because I didn't really think of them as drugs, and associated them with a healthy, fitness based lifestyle.
Here I am ten years later, on various kind of AAS, using drugs to get to sleep, drugs to stay awake, drugs to combat this side and that side, and on and on.

If I didn't take AAS at all, I would probably only be on one med.
I take mirtazipine too (prescribed) and it is a godsend for me.

I have had this discussion with friends that use AAS, and we agreed that it has gotten a little out of control. Drug use (especially prescribed stuff) has become so common it is ridiculous. I know many average joes that are prescribed so much crap, mainly to treat symptoms of illnesses that could be avoided if they took care of themselves by eating right and getting some exercise.

But to answer your question, no, I don't think it is uncommon to be on all that shit, especially in America. I don't think it is good though.

I was at a friend's uncles house the recently, and he had just got a pack in the mail of his prescribed meds. He could tell I was curious while I looked at him taking each bottle out of the pack, and he told me one was for BP, one for cholesterol, etc. He had cialis too. He told me 'just wait til you're 50, and you'll be on all this crap too'. I politely nodded, thinking, 'no, I will take care of myself so that I don't end up overweight and unhealthy and needing a ton of meds just to function like a healthy human being'.
I feel like a bit of hypocrit because I take a bunch of shit too, but like you said, 90% of it is related to my AAS use..... which I am not defending, I do not think it is healthy to be on AAS and to be using all the meds we use alongside our AAS.

Sometimes I just wish I could be happy being a non-muscular, average human being. I never used to take any drugs at all, I didn't need any. I ate right, and exercised regularly.

I remember filling out forms that asked if I was on any meds at all (you know, for things like insurance forms, or check in forms at the dentist, doctor, etc.) I would always write nothing, and they always double checked with me to be sure. They were surprised that a person took no meds at all. I remember thinking it was strange because I was in my twenties, but I guess even young people are medicated to the gills these days. It is not surprising I guess, you see commercials on TV advertising all kinds of drugs.
What really makes me sick is when they have elementary school aged kids taking things like ritalin, just disgusting.

 

[Performance Based]

As far as the adex, caber, and cialis what type of cycles are you running?


Since I changed up how I cycle I no longer need any of those (like you I was using all three).

 

[Armyguy]

I can only speak of the Mirtazapine as well...becasue I am on that as well as another anxiety medication only when I get panic attacks due to my PTSD. I made sure I read up as best I could, and I am on TRT, so my doc knows about the Imitrex and Topamax for migraines , the anti-deps and I was still prescribed Testosterone...And it is crazy that when I was in my 20's I never took any medication...and as the years go by it seems like there are more and more pills I have to take. I had to go and buy one of those pill trays with the days of the week on it to keep it all straight

 

[SL1CED]

I know in 5-10 years, I will regret saying this because this is how I will make my money, but STAY AWAY FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. Yes, stay away.

Steroids are documented, to a degree. The number one problem today in America outside of their general diet(I do not feel the need to address that to BBers here) is PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION.

When I get asked, I always say this, but I know when I actually become a doctor I cannot. But you guys, as patients, have to not always look for some random problem,diagnose yourselves, and expect us to give you a pill. Cause, we will, and that's where the problems arise.

 

[deanabol]

As far as the adex, caber, and cialis what type of cycles are you running?


Since I changed up how I cycle I no longer need any of those (like you I was using all three).

I need caber when I'm using gh otherwise I lactate

I take adex at a low dose when on test ( which is year round )

Cialis I need to function on any gear

 

[Performance Based]

On test I switched to aromasin, no longer need the adex nor the cialis... also easier on the lipids. If you haven't tried it yet I would.

 

[deanabol]

On test I switched to aromasin, no longer need the adex nor the cialis... also easier on the lipids. If you haven't tried it yet I would.

Yeah I have tried it but it really upset my stomach

 

[Serotonin]

I just recently got off my last anti-psychotic. Seroquel. I was only on a low dose at night for sleep (25mg). But I read that it can increase prolactin and cause gyno. I think that was part of the reason why I was so sensitive to 19 nors.

Just got off so we'll see how it goes. I used to be on a ton of psychiatric meds. But I'm off everything and I can function ok. For me I just needed to learn how to control myself better. A lot of it had to do with maturing.

Just a quick heads up to everyone. When on meds and introducing a new one you should google possible interactions between each medication. Some meds can interact with each other and cause dangerous complications. These are pharm meds after all and there is a reason you need a doctor to prescribe them. On top of that always start at a super low dose and increase the dosage very slowly. Same when getting off of it. Tapering is important.

And just to be clear, a lot of pharm meds can cause gyno so watch out.

 

[method2madness]

You don't have to rely on the drug companies and prescription meds to earn money as a doctor. be one of the good ones and treat your patients with nutritional guidance and sound lifestyle advice and they will come back to you repeatedly.

I know in 5-10 years, I will regret saying this because this is how I will make my money, but STAY AWAY FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. Yes, stay away.

Steroids are documented, to a degree. The number one problem today in America outside of their general diet(I do not feel the need to address that to BBers here) is PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION.

When I get asked, I always say this, but I know when I actually become a doctor I cannot. But you guys, as patients, have to not always look for some random problem,diagnose yourselves, and expect us to give you a pill. Cause, we will, and that's where the problems arise.

 

[bieberhole69]

You don't have to rely on the drug companies and prescription meds to earn money as a doctor. be one of the good ones and treat your patients with nutritional guidance and sound lifestyle advice and they will come back to you repeatedly.

Sorry man but IME this isn't true. I know quite a few doctors...and their patients just leave and go to the next dr. who'll prescribe them. This, of course, is in middle america. Might be different elsewhere where there is groups of people looking to get treated without medication.

Prescription drug use is out of control in the US. They did a survey of college aged women and 4/5 had used prescription drugs in the past year (mostly xanax and adderal according to the survey) and didn't think anything was wrong with it because it wasn't illegal with a prescription. IIRC, even 3/5 had given friends some because they didn't think there was any bad effects of the drugs.

There is a serious problem and most of it is with the younger crowds. GenerationRX is what the dr.'s I know call 'em.

 

[SL1CED]

You don't have to rely on the drug companies and prescription meds to earn money as a doctor. be one of the good ones and treat your patients with nutritional guidance and sound lifestyle advice and they will come back to you repeatedly.

I know that, but even being an intern right now patients just come to get a prescription-- and strictly that. I wouldn't have patients if I restricted prescriptions, I'll try out each patient for themselves, but just doing this everyday I can't believe how many people come in here just for a new prescription.

 

[IPGear]

Yeah I have tried it but it really upset my stomach

So the antidepresssent is creating the ED or steroids? We are really running the risk of looking stupid here but If you are not going to compete maybe an HRT regiment would eliminate the neeed for the antidepressent.


IPG

 

[SL1CED]

Sorry man but IME this isn't true. I know quite a few doctors...and their patients just leave and go to the next dr. who'll prescribe them. This, of course, is in middle america. Might be different elsewhere where there is groups of people looking to get treated without medication.

Prescription drug use is out of control in the US. They did a survey of college aged women and 4/5 had used prescription drugs in the past year (mostly xanax and adderal according to the survey) and didn't think anything was wrong with it because it wasn't illegal with a prescription. IIRC, even 3/5 had given friends some because they didn't think there was any bad effects of the drugs.

There is a serious problem and most of it is with the younger crowds. GenerationRX is what the dr.'s I know call 'em.

Overlooked this post and right on. In college right now, and I do not know a kid that isn't using Adderal and/or Xanax and/or Prozac or Zoloft. Not a single one.

And I know a lot of kids.

 

[tmuscle]

Overlooked this post and right on. In college right now, and I do not know a kid that isn't using Adderal and/or Xanax and/or Prozac or Zoloft. Not a single one.

And I know a lot of kids.

lol i agree with ya bro

being in college and not being on some kind of aderall/ritalin actually feels like a disadvantage

i think i was the only dumbass who went completely straight edge through college with no coffee or ADHD meds. i think i could have at least graduated a year earlier in engineering :banghead:



sadly i think modern america is all about drugs, but no one likes to talk about it.

and to think the modern public looks down on gear users. how hypocritical. aside from gear i don't even use caffeine rofl. no viagra no bp meds no nothing. not even advil or aspirin

 

[deanabol]

So the antidepresssent is creating the ED or steroids? We are really running the risk of looking stupid here but If you are not going to compete maybe an HRT regiment would eliminate the neeed for the antidepressent.


IPG

The steroids , I dont know through which path way but they have always effected me in this way .
I am never off , im either on 250mg test per week or more

 

[michelin]

Overlooked this post and right on. In college right now, and I do not know a kid that isn't using Adderal and/or Xanax and/or Prozac or Zoloft. Not a single one.

And I know a lot of kids.

That is seriously fucked up by the way.

So your society has a whole generation of kids who will either 'up their doses', get onto something stronger, or endure any 'episodes' when they come off this shit?

Scary.

 

[richiec]

I know that, but even being an intern right now patients just come to get a prescription-- and strictly that. I wouldn't have patients if I restricted prescriptions, I'll try out each patient for themselves, but just doing this everyday I can't believe how many people come in here just for a new prescription.

You will get patients even if you aren't a script writer. My doctor will only write swcripts if he feels it is absolutely necessary. If I or anyone else wants a strong pain killer (oxycontin), he actually does a screening! He wants to make sure that people aren't coming to him for pills alone, but for help. Like MM said, be one of the good ones. Preach what you know works, and if it doesn't help them, then consider a prescription. You sound like you have your head on straight and will be a good doc, wish you the best!

 

[SL1CED]

That is seriously fucked up by the way.

So your society has a whole generation of kids who will either 'up their doses', get onto something stronger, or endure any 'episodes' when they come off this shit?

Scary.

Yes, very scary. But at the same time, very real. No one is themselves, they are all influenced on some type of alternate medicine.

You will get patients even if you aren't a script writer. My doctor will only write swcripts if he feels it is absolutely necessary. If I or anyone else wants a strong pain killer (oxycontin), he actually does a screening! He wants to make sure that people aren't coming to him for pills alone, but for help. Like MM said, be one of the good ones. Preach what you know works, and if it doesn't help them, then consider a prescription. You sound like you have your head on straight and will be a good doc, wish you the best!

I'll always preach going to safer route, but like the doctor I'm working under told me, that if you are very restrictive about passing out restrictions then word will spread. And, you'll be the doctor people do not like to go to. The most "successful" doctors are the one's that hand out the most prescriptions. I hope I can find a medium, but it's not looking good.

 

[grizzly978]

I know in 5-10 years, I will regret saying this because this is how I will make my money, but STAY AWAY FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. Yes, stay away.

Steroids are documented, to a degree. The number one problem today in America outside of their general diet(I do not feel the need to address that to BBers here) is PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION.

When I get asked, I always say this, but I know when I actually become a doctor I cannot. But you guys, as patients, have to not always look for some random problem,diagnose yourselves, and expect us to give you a pill. Cause, we will, and that's where the problems arise.

The drugs end up doing more harm than good. Unless you're dieing or something don't give into that prescription shit. The docs just throw out antidepressants and benzos too easy.