The Laws of Trenbolone

[jimmyjones]

Trenbolone, as they say..... The Nectar of the Gods! Is by far the most misunderstood drug, in all of bodybuilding history. So many stories out there of the reckless insomnia, the high blood pressure, the hair on your pillow, the brown stinky urine that is reponsibly for your kidneys falling out of your ass. Ill be the first person to tell you that this is 90% horse shit.

Why? Continue reading below.

You see, due to broscience and bible like teachings of steroid use, everyone thought it was only logical to run your Test twice as high as your Tren, you know..to avoid that TREN DICK! Well, it would only seem logical right? God forbid the Tren dosage was as high as your Test, and you might just get called insane or stupid. Well, I too was one that fell into the hole of incorrect teachings. My first time trying Trenbolone, I start out at 150mg per week…150 measly milligrams per week. I coupled it with 500mg Test Enanthate. And I tell ya what…I felt the night sweats, insomnia, the aggression, and the high blood pressure. I felt god fucking awful. And so there I stopped.


A few months later down the road, I began reading some things on this very forum, all about low Test/ High Tren. Me being a guinea pig, I decided to give Tren one more try. I also had read very deep into Cabergoline. I figured, if im using an anti-estrogen for my Test dosage….why would I not use an anti-prolactin? If you all didn’t know by now, Trenbolone raises prolactin inside the body dramatically after the 4th-5th week. Then, I began reading on prolactin’s effect on the body. And then it all finally clicked correctly in my head.


Tren dick? Deca dick? How can such androgenic drugs, shut down libido so badly, to the point of feeling castrated? Well, I will tell you all, once and for all, why these mythical Tren Dick and Deca Dick situations even occur.

So check me out. After successful sexual intercourse, the male ejaculates. When this occurs, the body spikes the hormone prolactin, which is the signal to let you know you are officially done with copulation. That’s it, youre done. You’ve reached the sex heaven.

So what happens next? Your dick dies. It goes absolutely limp. Because, by human nature, there is no more need for you to pass along your seeds, they are already inside the queen bee.

So what does this all mean? Essentially, it is prolactin causing the problems, NOT the Tren. Yes, of course, the Tren caused the prolactin to rise, but we don’t attack the Tren, we attack the prolactin.

That’s where Cabergoline comes in. Caber comes in with the dual AK-47’s and blasts prolactin to the floor, never to be heard from again. Now that that’s taken care of, Tren and Deca will NEVER again give you limp noodle dick. EVER.

Now back to the “Low Test” deal, I had read a post some fellow made, about NEVER going above 200mg whenever Tren is in the equation. So I tried it…
I started out again with 50mg Tren Ace EOD. Coupled with 50mg Test Ace EOD.

2 Weeks in and I began feeling incredible. Strength and size were thru the roof. And I said, damn, is this Test Ace good as fuck and this Tren Ace bunk or someshit? No way, GAULS never sends me bunk shit…. What the fuck? I don’t feel any sides!

So I bumped the Tren Ace to 100mg EOD. I felt even better…

Then I bumped the Tren Ace to 200mg EOD….

Then 300mg EOD.

And good god, I was the biggest and leanest Ive ever been in my life, all the while running 150mg of Test Ace per week the entire time.
I was on 900mg of Tren Ace per week only for 2 weeks, and then I dropped the drug entirely. But I must state again, never in my life had I felt so amazing. Strength, size, vascularity, sex drive, well being, blood pressure, my god did I feel like a well-lubed high performance machine. I had gained 10lbs of pure size and no water in just 4 weeks. I am NOT telling you to run 900mg of Tren, no I really am not. This is purely for my own experimental reasons. I just wanted to see what would happen, even if I stayed on 150mg Test the entire time.


After this experience, Testosterone is simply a weak and inefficient steroid next to Trenbolone. In my mind, when you couple such a powerful drug like Trenbolone at a moderate to high dosage, with a high dosage of Testosterone, you leave LOTS and LOTS of unbound hormone flowing around mindlessly in your body. Since Trenbolone attaches to the receptor site first, and there is high dosages of Testosterone in the mix as well, its as if Testosterone is roaming the streets looting stores, stealing cars, breaking windows (high blood pressure, insomnia, night sweats).

You know what I say? When Trenbolone is sitting at the front of the table, talking, everyone else shuts their mouths. That’s right. He is the fucking boss and no one else is above him. Testosterone is like the boss’ bitch. The boss’ bitch is allowed to speak ONLY when the boss is NOT speaking.
What do I mean by that? When Trenbolone is at ANYTIME part of your cycle, test is always below 200mg a week. When Trenbolone comes OUT of the equation, that’s when you may blast Testosterone to the moon.

Final conclusion of my story?

1) Always keep prolactin in check when using Trenbolone or Nandrolone
2) Never use more than 200mg of Testosterone per week when using Trenbolone
3) Don’t knock something till you try it. It may change your entire mindset of this game!
4) Bump up Tren nice and slow...and get big and lean as FUCK!

[collinb]

Good post a summary of a lot of thoughts brought into one post.

[pieguy]

i always questioned those who said Tren/Deca gave them limp noodle. Was it because their body was intolerant or they just didn't run enough prolactin control.

[renewlyf]

Nice post Jimmy,
What about mental sides and sleep?? Those are the ones that bother me the most! My anger and aggression tend to easly fly off at bad times.

[earch]

how much caber were you using in conjuction with your tren/test and did you increase it as your tren increased?

[jimmyjones]

Originally Posted by earch

how much caber were you using in conjuction with your tren/test and did you increase it as your tren increased?

Only 1.5mg of Caber per week is needed for 600mg Tren and above. Anything below and you can use 1mg. You take it 2x a week.

[csb123]

Loving my first run of low dose test high tren right now despite my other thread about kidney scare today lol

[rc771]

Great post man.

I was one of the ones that used to run test way higher than tren, I never really had any problems because I always ran caber but this time around I am doing low test high tren and I can honestly say it is amazing.

On 200mg Test, 750 Tren E, and 700 EQ with caber and NO anti e and Sex has literally never been better I am quite pleased... I think running HMG is aiding in that also. On top of that the low test allows me to run higher tren with NO sides and the results are awesome.

[dukkitdalaw]

Been doing this for years.

Only way to run Tren.

[Goalieguru]

I know you like caber, but what about prami? what dose would you recommend....?

[jimmyjones]

I have never ran Prami, so I have no insight on dosages for that drug.

As far as mental sides...that is one that is deeply rooted within the person inside of you. If you are a complete dickhead, Tren will make you a Ross Erstling. If you are a normal calm, civil human being, Tren will just make you less tolerant to stupidity. Self awareness and self control.

YOU control the drug, dont let the drug control YOU.

[Mad Matt]

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

Been doing this for years.

Only way to run Tren.

I do believe you and i have been stating this for many years now Dukki, not only here but else where...

[sluggy]

Excellent post. How was your blood pressure on low test?

[dukkitdalaw]

Originally Posted by Mad Matt

I do believe you and i have been stating this for many years now Dukki, not only here but else where...

Yes sir we have.

Cuz we so smart.

[Racepicks]

Originally Posted by jimmyjones

I have never ran Prami, so I have no insight on dosages for that drug.

As far as mental sides...that is one that is deeply rooted within the person inside of you. If you are a complete dickhead, Tren will make you a Ross Erstling. If you are a normal calm, civil human being, Tren will just make you less tolerant to stupidity. Self awareness and self control.

YOU control the drug, dont let the drug control YOU.

Excellent point!

[Adonis89]

I have quite a bit of experience in using tren, studying tren, learning from experienced AAS (tren) users. Here is what I can conclude to add to this. Many things are similar to what was said here, a few additions:

Low (TRT) dose test is the way to go with tren, in fact I prefer it with all cycles.

25-50mg seroquel is the abosolute best remedy for trensomia. It treats the cause of trensomia by antagonizing the serotonin/dopamine/NE receptors and cancelling that "stimmy" feeling/racing mind we all get form tren's potent CNS effects. Z-drugs are bullshit on tren. Benzo's help but are addictive and don't work as well as seroquel.

also, IMO, 700mg Primo E + 700mg Mast E + TRT Test > Tren. (just more expensive).

[wilderbeast]

BEAST <3 TREN

BEAST

[wilderbeast]

Originally Posted by Goalieguru

I know you like caber, but what about prami? what dose would you recommend....?

I have researched .25mg - .5mg EOD.

BEAST

[robertfhub]

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"You know what I say? When Trenbolone is sitting at the front of the table, talking, everyone else shuts their mouths. That’s right. He is the fucking boss and no one else is above him. testosterone is like the boss’ bitch. The boss’ bitch is allowed to speak ONLY when the boss is NOT speaking."

[Chode Logan]

Originally Posted by Adonis89

I have quite a bit of experience in using tren, studying tren, learning from experienced AAS (tren) users. Here is what I can conclude to add to this. Many things are similar to what was said here, a few additions:

Low (TRT) dose test is the way to go with tren, in fact I prefer it with all cycles.

25-50mg seroquel is the abosolute best remedy for trensomia. It treats the cause of trensomia by antagonizing the serotonin/dopamine/NE receptors and cancelling that "stimmy" feeling/racing mind we all get form tren's potent CNS effects. Z-drugs are bullshit on tren. Benzo's help but are addictive and don't work as well as seroquel.

also, IMO, 700mg Primo E + 700mg Mast E + TRT Test > Tren. (just more expensive).

The seroquel is SPOT on. I was put on seroquel because I suffer from severe depression and anxiety, but it seems to only really be triggered by lack of sleep. As long as I am getting a good sleep, I feel great. My dosage was raised to 200-300 mg of seroquel nightly (I now sleep like a baby off as low as 25), but I ran tren while on seroquel and was sleeping 10 hours a night like a bear with zero issues....



....except the heinous sweats