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We were talking in another thread about this and it got to be a tangent in the thread so per suggestion I copied and pasted the info here.
I like to use GDA's and its my firm belief that mastery of insulin and insulin sensitivity is your greatest asset when it comes to dietary and hormonal manipulation.
These are the usual suspects in my current regimen.
r-ala by AST
200 mg
I-LOAD by Professional Supplements
Contains:
Banaba Extract (2%corsolic acid)
Gymnema Sylvestre (75% Gymnemic Acid)
Chromium Picolonate
Momordica 10:1 extract
Cinnamon 4:1 extract
Sugar Smart by Irwin Naturals
Chromium Picolonate 125mcg
Biotin 500 mcg
Flaxseed oil 900mg
Green Coffee Bean 300mg (50% chlorogenic acids) (wheres Dr fucking OZ?)
Gymnema Extract (25% Gymnemic Acids) 200 mg
Cinnamon Extract (10:1) 150 mg
Asian Ginsneg (4% ginisensosides) 100mg
Alpha lipoid acid 50 mg
Benfotiamine 15 mg
Vanadium (vanadyl sulfate) 125 mcg
NOW Foods Fenugreek
Fenugreek 500 mg (hydroxy-isoleucine)
USP Labs Anabolic Pump
Phellodendron Bark
Largerstroemia Stem
NOTE: The USP labs product I don't always take because it cost much more than the others.
Heres my thing with GDA's.
This is so simple to me -maybe some people are doing it some are not.
For me its like this, after competing the one thing you experience is the after show rebound, you can put on the most size after a show, nearly effortlessly and with WAY less drugs.
The reason?
Insulin sensitivity is super high, fat stores are super low ( they should be at least ) your body is practically a partitioning machine.
You can eat pizza and twinkies and look damned good.
Unfortunately the party ends and depending on how lean you were you start to re-gain some bodyfat with all those nice gains.
But still, I have personally put 30 lbs on in 3 weeks after a show and still had abs, good abs no less.
So it dawned on me, that if you re-create this on a micro scale, say within a 6 week period, starting by dieting down to a low(er) bodyfat. Then you add back in carbs, and some good fats. You let yourself grow, for me its about 2-3 weeks before I start to really lose the effect, so then I turn around and diet again, low carbs, and guess what?
Just like at the begining of your diet your metabolism is nice and strong you burn fat quite easily.
I'll do this for a while say 7-10 days, tighten up, increase my insulin sensitivity again, thereby resetting the system and then boom, back with the carbs and my body grows but does so with a lesser degree of fat gain, just keep shifting back and forth and you make leaner gains.
I break each phase up into a different proportion- I like to do 60% gain (higher carbs) 40% cut (lower carbs).
Each time through the micro cycle you gains some muscle and lose some fat keeping your gains slow and steady but bodyfat also low.
You are not going to NOT lose muscle during the diet phase, just a lot less, and your not going to keep from gaining fat during the gaining phase, again just a lot less.
When you're insulin sensitive you grow much easier and you uptake glucose at a higher rate. Most of us know this, so we recreate that environment with our diets and voilla.
This is where GDA's come in.
GDA's increase the muscle cells sensitivity to glucose, the more you can uptake there, the more recovery and growth you can get AND the less fat gain you will get from spillover or over consumption of carbs.
You are making your glucose 'sponge' even bigger.
During the high carb phase they allow the cells to uptake more of your carbohydrate intake.
During the low phase they utilize what little carbs you get more efficiently AND in lower or zero carb environments they push you into ketosis easily.
I take them before the majority of my meals, I take them post workout 30 min before I eat, again to increase utilization of carbs even when the body is more sensitive - this way I can increase the post workout recovery potential.
You can really enhance growth potential, recovery and keep your body apt to burning fat.
Not too mention r-ala is an antioxidant, good for your liver , helps your body uptake and retain other anti oxidants like A, C, E, Selenium which is going to improve overall health.
To me its this aspect that really gets missed out on by a lot of bodybuilders who just want to eat pop tarts, take more GH, Test, slin and have it some how mysteriously all work better by taking more and not by manipulation of the bodies environment-which to me is far more important.
I see a lot of linear dieting, sure people say they rotate carbs...but usually they don't do it to the correct degree, most guys get to their off season its, relax, eat what you want, a lot of newer guys don't realize the 'dieting' never stops, it just changes.
If you can do BOTH, that is lose fat and gain muscle,then you are on to something.
You can integrate IGF, IGF DES and insulin into the picture as well.
THEY also can manipulate insulin sensitivtiy.
Maximizing nutrient uptake and minimizing fat storage should be the aim of the game.
Right now, if I could do 750 mg of say sustanon, I could really blow up.
But for now Im happy doing this.
Im sure some guys are doing thing similar to this, and some may not be doing anything.
Alot of guys just take high doses and eat Taco Bell or Burgker King 3 x's a day.
Again, eating clean 90% of the time when gaining is a key element- the diet isnt all that much different from gain to lose, just carb shifts.
Its like a giant carb rotation.
GDA's help maximize the uptake and keep slin sensitivity high.
Like I said I take them about 15 minutes before every meal during the day during the high and low phases.
BTW I don't have this perfected yet, but I know some of the guys here on PM do things with a similar mindset but I think this post could really help some others at least see some dietary things from a fresh perspective.
Im no guru nor am I trying to be one, I just have learned a system for myself over the years and I think it works well.
I like to use GDA's and its my firm belief that mastery of insulin and insulin sensitivity is your greatest asset when it comes to dietary and hormonal manipulation.
These are the usual suspects in my current regimen.
r-ala by AST
200 mg
I-LOAD by Professional Supplements
Contains:
Banaba Extract (2%corsolic acid)
Gymnema Sylvestre (75% Gymnemic Acid)
Chromium Picolonate
Momordica 10:1 extract
Cinnamon 4:1 extract
Sugar Smart by Irwin Naturals
Chromium Picolonate 125mcg
Biotin 500 mcg
Flaxseed oil 900mg
Green Coffee Bean 300mg (50% chlorogenic acids) (wheres Dr fucking OZ?)
Gymnema Extract (25% Gymnemic Acids) 200 mg
Cinnamon Extract (10:1) 150 mg
Asian Ginsneg (4% ginisensosides) 100mg
Alpha lipoid acid 50 mg
Benfotiamine 15 mg
Vanadium (vanadyl sulfate) 125 mcg
NOW Foods Fenugreek
Fenugreek 500 mg (hydroxy-isoleucine)
USP Labs Anabolic Pump
Phellodendron Bark
Largerstroemia Stem
NOTE: The USP labs product I don't always take because it cost much more than the others.
Heres my thing with GDA's.
This is so simple to me -maybe some people are doing it some are not.
For me its like this, after competing the one thing you experience is the after show rebound, you can put on the most size after a show, nearly effortlessly and with WAY less drugs.
The reason?
Insulin sensitivity is super high, fat stores are super low ( they should be at least ) your body is practically a partitioning machine.
You can eat pizza and twinkies and look damned good.
Unfortunately the party ends and depending on how lean you were you start to re-gain some bodyfat with all those nice gains.
But still, I have personally put 30 lbs on in 3 weeks after a show and still had abs, good abs no less.
So it dawned on me, that if you re-create this on a micro scale, say within a 6 week period, starting by dieting down to a low(er) bodyfat. Then you add back in carbs, and some good fats. You let yourself grow, for me its about 2-3 weeks before I start to really lose the effect, so then I turn around and diet again, low carbs, and guess what?
Just like at the begining of your diet your metabolism is nice and strong you burn fat quite easily.
I'll do this for a while say 7-10 days, tighten up, increase my insulin sensitivity again, thereby resetting the system and then boom, back with the carbs and my body grows but does so with a lesser degree of fat gain, just keep shifting back and forth and you make leaner gains.
I break each phase up into a different proportion- I like to do 60% gain (higher carbs) 40% cut (lower carbs).
Each time through the micro cycle you gains some muscle and lose some fat keeping your gains slow and steady but bodyfat also low.
You are not going to NOT lose muscle during the diet phase, just a lot less, and your not going to keep from gaining fat during the gaining phase, again just a lot less.
When you're insulin sensitive you grow much easier and you uptake glucose at a higher rate. Most of us know this, so we recreate that environment with our diets and voilla.
This is where GDA's come in.
GDA's increase the muscle cells sensitivity to glucose, the more you can uptake there, the more recovery and growth you can get AND the less fat gain you will get from spillover or over consumption of carbs.
You are making your glucose 'sponge' even bigger.
During the high carb phase they allow the cells to uptake more of your carbohydrate intake.
During the low phase they utilize what little carbs you get more efficiently AND in lower or zero carb environments they push you into ketosis easily.
I take them before the majority of my meals, I take them post workout 30 min before I eat, again to increase utilization of carbs even when the body is more sensitive - this way I can increase the post workout recovery potential.
You can really enhance growth potential, recovery and keep your body apt to burning fat.
Not too mention r-ala is an antioxidant, good for your liver , helps your body uptake and retain other anti oxidants like A, C, E, Selenium which is going to improve overall health.
To me its this aspect that really gets missed out on by a lot of bodybuilders who just want to eat pop tarts, take more GH, Test, slin and have it some how mysteriously all work better by taking more and not by manipulation of the bodies environment-which to me is far more important.
I see a lot of linear dieting, sure people say they rotate carbs...but usually they don't do it to the correct degree, most guys get to their off season its, relax, eat what you want, a lot of newer guys don't realize the 'dieting' never stops, it just changes.
If you can do BOTH, that is lose fat and gain muscle,then you are on to something.
You can integrate IGF, IGF DES and insulin into the picture as well.
THEY also can manipulate insulin sensitivtiy.
Maximizing nutrient uptake and minimizing fat storage should be the aim of the game.
Right now, if I could do 750 mg of say sustanon, I could really blow up.
But for now Im happy doing this.
Im sure some guys are doing thing similar to this, and some may not be doing anything.
Alot of guys just take high doses and eat Taco Bell or Burgker King 3 x's a day.
Again, eating clean 90% of the time when gaining is a key element- the diet isnt all that much different from gain to lose, just carb shifts.
Its like a giant carb rotation.
GDA's help maximize the uptake and keep slin sensitivity high.
Like I said I take them about 15 minutes before every meal during the day during the high and low phases.
BTW I don't have this perfected yet, but I know some of the guys here on PM do things with a similar mindset but I think this post could really help some others at least see some dietary things from a fresh perspective.
Im no guru nor am I trying to be one, I just have learned a system for myself over the years and I think it works well.
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