DHTs are not doable lol

[LATS]

I dont mess much with dhts.. I love primo but I consider it a dhb. But mast.. anavar.. winny.. I dont mess much with because quite honestly they make me unbearable in the horniness dept ..

My recent cycle is 350 mgs of test... 300mgs of npp.. and I'll add a small amount of mast or proviron to maintain sexual function. This last cycle I added 120mgs of mast a week. 5 weeks in I'm literally my 16 year old self walking around accessing every female around me and wondering if they get freaky.. young.. old. Skinny.. fat.. makes no matter.. it was twice a day every day and thank god my wife is wired like me or we would be signing divorce papers...

So I finally had to withdraw the mast ( I usually never run npp more than 5 weeks so having prop mast this long is rare) and I added proviron at 50 mgs a day... no help... random chubbies for no real good reason.. and the thoughts that shoukd never be spoken I could have lowered the dose but decided idctry something else.

So I pulled that.. I had never really done a anavar cycle.. had some anavar.. I figured I'd try it as a dht and see how it goes. Well after waiting 5 days for any proviron to clear I started 35 mgs of anavar a day.. a couple days in and I'm back to being aweful.. maybe worse. Thank the heavens for a wife who loves it but the constant libido ( I'd never thought I'd say this) has got to go. I'm good for everyday relations but humping parking signs is not socially acceptable... I'm 51 and love the fact my wife and I are still freaky 5 days a week for 25 years. But i have finally come to the conclusion that no more dht based compounds for me. Sorry anavar... sorry mast.. but your going to get me arrested...

Anyone else have issues with dht derivatives???

 

[Fa Seeshus]

DHB might be a good option. While it is a good hardener, it doesn't seem to keep down there constantly hard.

 

[fitzchivalry]

Only when used in lower doses, but not anything that I can't control.

Medium/higher doses or on them for long times has the opposite effect, though, for me and tend to make me irritable.

 

[LATS]

DHB might be a good option. While it is a good hardener, it doesn't seem to keep down there constantly hard.

Yeah I'm a big fan of primo and 1 test cyp.. no issues there. But even low dose dht was killing me.. mast is generally not a issue at 140mgs but the length if time on the mast I think was just too much.. I'm usually in and out of a cycle in 6 weeks.. been milking this one a bit longer

 

[gungalunga]

I do believe you are the first 51 year old that I have ever heard complain about getting too many boners and having sex too often. Be thankful.....I'm close to your age. If our fathers had issues with ED, they pretty much just had to come to terms with the fact that they couldn't get it up anymore. For our generation....between test, mast, cialis, and viagara, we can get it up until the day we die. Life is good I tell ya......

 

[thethinker48]

I just like keeping my hair so I stay away from them [emoji846]

The more i weigh pros and cons of everything; I keep coming back to low-moderate dose test, a little GH and primo if real.

Tren makes me a sociopath (this isn’t even counting how destructive it is neuro/physiologically)
Orals make me feel like shit; and destroy appetite
EQ does nothing for me
NPP while great tanks libido (mast can fix this but then hair starts going lol)

It’s great being in the no tolerance camp for drugs lol


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[armada]

Why not just lower the dose of the DHT compound? Split a 25mg proviron in half and take it twice daily alongside your Test + NPP.

Or if you're having ED problems on Test + NPP, use a low dose of cialis daily, which has potential health benefits in addition to helping with ED.

 

[Elvia1023]

Sometimes hormones can be weird in a sense. Meaning I am on winny and proviron (and just added 20mg halo) and the androgenic signs have come out strong but at the same time my libido has actually lowered. It's only temporary but you would think I would be the same as you. I was before I added the orals in. I do feel more aggressive and started getting some small acne on my face as soon as I added them in as well.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Its so interesting how everyone responds a litttttle different to certain compounds. Same goes for diet.

Before I had touched any DHT's I had buddies tell me the same thing, "I feel like i'm 16 again!" haha. But i've tried a ton of different drugs and they all work different. Mast does nothing for my libido and makes me shed like no other. I've tried low doses, high doses, everything inbetween and it just doesnt work like that for me. I just lose a ton of hair and it somewhat hardens me up. I do believe it makes my test dosage work better, but the constant shedding is too much for me. Proviron, winny and Var are much easier and I like...although I do try not to rely too much on orals anymore.

I also believe it has a lot to do with ratios of other hormones. Lats, something like 300/300/300 might work better than a 750test/900EQ/500Mast. It's all about finding the perfect ratio i believe.

 

[Elvia1023]

Its so interesting how everyone responds a litttttle different to certain compounds. Same goes for diet.

Before I had touched any DHT's I had buddies tell me the same thing, "I feel like i'm 16 again!" haha. But i've tried a ton of different drugs and they all work different. Mast does nothing for my libido and makes me shed like no other. I've tried low doses, high doses, everything inbetween and it just doesnt work like that for me. I just lose a ton of hair and it somewhat hardens me up. I do believe it makes my test dosage work better, but the constant shedding is too much for me. Proviron, winny and Var are much easier and I like...although I do try not to rely too much on orals anymore.

I also believe it has a lot to do with ratios of other hormones. Lats, something like 300/300/300 might work better than a 750test/900EQ/500Mast. It's all about finding the perfect ratio i believe.

I completely agree. I have had this before on higher androgens. Although I could add in 30mg tren a tonight and my libido will probably be raging 2moro Tren is a good example of something so many respond differently to especially in regards to libido. I also agree about the ratios and they can make a massive difference (estrogen being a key hormone in all of this).

 

[need4tren]

stanolone is probably my favourite compound. Feel amazing crazy sex drive crazy strong. Only thing is you got to shoot a lot and it hurts.

Kinda sucks having to jerk off 5 times a day tho

 

[LATS]

I do believe you are the first 51 year old that I have ever heard complain about getting too many boners and having sex too often. Be thankful.....I'm close to your age. If our fathers had issues with ED, they pretty much just had to come to terms with the fact that they couldn't get it up anymore. For our generation....between test, mast, cialis, and viagara, we can get it up until the day we die. Life is good I tell ya......

Lol.. not complaining too much.. but just want to go to mcdonalds with wondering if susie behind the counter missing her 2 front teeth is a freak...

 

[LATS]

Its so interesting how everyone responds a litttttle different to certain compounds. Same goes for diet.

Before I had touched any DHT's I had buddies tell me the same thing, "I feel like i'm 16 again!" haha. But i've tried a ton of different drugs and they all work different. Mast does nothing for my libido and makes me shed like no other. I've tried low doses, high doses, everything inbetween and it just doesnt work like that for me. I just lose a ton of hair and it somewhat hardens me up. I do believe it makes my test dosage work better, but the constant shedding is too much for me. Proviron, winny and Var are much easier and I like...although I do try not to rely too much on orals anymore.

I also believe it has a lot to do with ratios of other hormones. Lats, something like 300/300/300 might work better than a 750test/900EQ/500Mast. It's all about finding the perfect ratio i believe.

I agree.. certain compounds work better for some than other.. as I've said numerous times here I cant do high test.. feel like hell and nothing but erection difficulties.. others get in high test and feel like superman.
I live 1 test cyp.. others didnt.. for me it's best to run low dose of three or more compounds.. it's more about the total anabolic/ androgenic ration.. not the compounds run .. if you know what I mean..

But over the years I have come to realize that certain things are off limits.. eq gives me anxiety even as low as 300 mgs a week.. tren even as low as 150mgs eventually makes me feel like hell. Just a matter of weeks..

The key is to just stick to those compounds that agree with you at the lowest dosage possible that still gives results.. and do not try and fight through the sides.. it's not worth it in the long run.

 

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

I just like keeping my hair so I stay away from them [emoji846]

The more i weigh pros and cons of everything; I keep coming back to low-moderate dose test, a little GH and primo if real.

Tren makes me a sociopath (this isn’t even counting how destructive it is neuro/physiologically)
Orals make me feel like shit; and destroy appetite
EQ does nothing for me
NPP while great tanks libido (mast can fix this but then hair starts going lol)

It’s great being in the no tolerance camp for drugs lol


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primo is a dht derivative. what dose primo do you stack with test?

Just because its a dht derivative doesnt mean its any worst on hair than any other derivative. William Llewellyn wrote bout this and I believe it.

 

[LATS]

primo is a dht derivative. what dose primo do you stack with test?

Just because its a dht derivative doesnt mean its any worst on hair than any other derivative. William Llewellyn wrote bout this and I believe it.

Yes.. since it is not going through the conversion process ( which actually causes the hairloss) what many are surmising is that adding things like mast is adding yo the total androgenic count if the cycle.. therefore the hairless is androgenic based hairless and not from dht..

 

[thethinker48]

primo is a dht derivative. what dose primo do you stack with test?



Just because its a dht derivative doesnt mean its any worst on hair than any other derivative. William Llewellyn wrote bout this and I believe it.

Yeah, Primo causes zero hair loss for me personally.

Dosages: 200 was noticeable
350-400 was good, sweet spot
500+ was very good, just expensive and not fun to pin, did give me anxiety one time





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[Love_to_Bodybuild]

Yeah, Primo causes zero hair loss for me personally.

Dosages: 200 was noticeable
350-400 was good, sweet spot
500+ was very good, just expensive and not fun to pin, did give me anxiety one time





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does anything else cause shedding for you?

 

[bad rad]

Masteron does this to me too. It's a weird feeling being that uncontrollably horny.

 

[pesty4077]

Lol.. not complaining too much.. but just want to go to mcdonalds with wondering if susie behind the counter missing her 2 front teeth is a freak... ��

Hahahahaha, this made me laugh. Give me 100 to 150 MG of test and 100 MG of masteron, I start thinking fat, ugly girls look good.

 

[epoxy]

I feel your pain brother - this has always been the case for me and I hate it. My current girlfriend has gotten to the point that she watches me when we go out in public and she catches me staring at basically ANYTHING with any semblance of an ass or a set of breasts. It drives her nuts, I tell her I just can't help it and that's not a good enough answer for her :banghead: