Lowest protein you've done on a PSMF

[Biggerp73]

Going to jump back on a PSMF for a couple weeks and wondering what's the lowest protein you guys have ever done (both in terms of total grams and number of meals).

The last time I did the PSMF i ate 50g of protein from chicken breast every 5-7 hours, but I am wondering if I can go even lower without experiencing significant muscle loss.

Just FYI, I'll be running 200mg Tren E. EOD, 250mg DNP, 25mcg T3, and 250iu HCG EOD. .

 

[USMuscle9403]

A gram per pound of lean body mass; carbs and fats kept at 20g or under, respectively. I've gone lower for periods of time under different circumstances, but I also wasn't training very hard at the time, either.

Honestly, have you considered outright fasting one or two days at a time? I feel eating so little is actually much harder than simply not eating anything at all. You can still train, but I'd keep it pretty damn non-demanding. No, your muscles won't just fall off overnight, but I don't recommend doing any of these protocols any more than a few weeks at a time. Different guys have varying levels of muscle retention doing something like this. Even the strictest PSMF I've seen still incorporated refeeds and even a periodic cheat meal or total diet break for a week or two, then resuming until you're satisfied with the fat loss.

Good luck, but be careful and monitor meticulously.

 

[NEMSZ]

Yea bro, 800 calories a day while on 600mg+ per week of Tren and 250mg DNP isn’t overkill at all

If you aren’t like 25% bodyfat I don’t see the point in this...

I think the point is to shed the most fat possible while suffering the least but you’re on a mission to be miserable apparently lol...

I think you’ll be just fine on 400g or protein with a couple grams a day of Fish Oil at the least.... That’s how I would do it anyway...

 

[qbkilla]

I'd do 3 days of 500 calories then a day of 3000. That's a little over 1k cal per day. Do cardio too. If you cant lose weight on that you cant lose weight. Will retain muscle better too and not torture yourself.

 

[buzzbomb138]

I'd do 3 days of 500 calories then a day of 3000. That's a little over 1k cal per day. Do cardio too. If you cant lose weight on that you cant lose weight. Will retain muscle better too and not torture yourself.

i do something similar, 3 days of 1300 then a 3000 refeed. comes out to ~1700, not exactly PSMF low cals, but with DNP in the mix that isnt quite necessary.

 

[btails]

I just did psmf for 2 weeks straight. No veggies. Straight chicken breast. 4 on non training days, 6 on training days. No refeeds or cheats

Blew dnp results out of the water. Suffering was minimal. Eca for energy.

 

[qbkilla]

I just did psmf for 2 weeks straight. No veggies. Straight chicken breast. 4 on non training days, 6 on training days. No refeeds or cheats

Blew dnp results out of the water. Suffering was minimal. Eca for energy.

That's 4oz and 6oz chicken total per day, for 2 weeks straight? So like 100 or 125 calories total? Was there any muscle loss?

 

[FITABOLICREP]

nmind…..

 

[tornquad]

curious to everyone's sodium intake

 

[btails]

That's 4oz and 6oz chicken total per day, for 2 weeks straight? So like 100 or 125 calories total? Was there any muscle loss?

Oh god no. No point in going that low.. 4 to 6 full chicken breasts not oz.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

IN the middle of a PSMF with DNP right now.
350-370 protein a day. Anything lower than that is not good for me.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

By the way, as a bigger dude I usually throw one day (usually a weekend day) of adding in some higher fats too. Just like nuts and avocados and stuff to somewhat fill up the intramuscular triglycerides a bit to help with fullness and all that.


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[tren_plz]

What’s your current diet other? 6 meals just 6oz lean protein/egg whites? No added fats/carbs besides your weekend?

 

[TheOtherOne55]

What’s your current diet other? 6 meals just 6oz lean protein/egg whites? No added fats/carbs besides your weekend?

Mostly sticking to whey/egg/casein mix shakes, chicken breast, turkey breast, 96/4 ground beef and then greek yogurt. Only added fats are some fish oil & krill oil end of the day. Usually hitting 1800-2000 cals a day and running Fortitude training (full body style). 45 min cardio on off day, added 15 mins of cardio PWO.

I have fun this several times and experimented. Right now I throw in 40g carbs Intra WO with 4-5iu of insulin. I take out that amount of protein out on those days. So 360ish protein, 40g carbs, trace fats on WO days. 375ish protein, no carbs, trace fats on cardio days. I found this be better for me for whatever reason. Allows me to throw some L-Carnitine in for some added fat loss and it makes me feel better intraWO.

I did the traditional no carbs at all and felt like dog shit and felt I was losing muscle. When I go on a giant deficit like this, the added slin Intra makes me feel like i'm holding onto my LBM during the most stressful times, during my WO...if that makes any sense haha

 

[Biggerp73]

Yeah I plan on sipping 40g dextrose, 5g creatine, and 6g BCAA during training.


Probably gonna stick with the 50g protein from chicken breast every ~5 hours, with no other food (except maybe some veggies at night if hungry).

Will also throw in some Bronkaid I picked up at Walmart today, and some home-made capped ghost pepper spice for fun.

 

[buzzbomb138]

Yeah I plan on sipping 40g dextrose, 5g creatine, and 6g BCAA during training.


Probably gonna stick with the 50g protein from chicken breast every ~5 hours, with no other food (except maybe some veggies at night if hungry).

Will also throw in some Bronkaid I picked up at Walmart today, and some home-made capped ghost pepper spice for fun.

jesus that sounds like an ulcer in a pill lol

 

[tren_plz]

Mostly sticking to whey/egg/casein mix shakes, chicken breast, turkey breast, 96/4 ground beef and then greek yogurt. Only added fats are some fish oil & krill oil end of the day. Usually hitting 1800-2000 cals a day and running Fortitude training (full body style). 45 min cardio on off day, added 15 mins of cardio PWO.

I have fun this several times and experimented. Right now I throw in 40g carbs Intra WO with 4-5iu of insulin. I take out that amount of protein out on those days. So 360ish protein, 40g carbs, trace fats on WO days. 375ish protein, no carbs, trace fats on cardio days. I found this be better for me for whatever reason. Allows me to throw some L-Carnitine in for some added fat loss and it makes me feel better intraWO.

I did the traditional no carbs at all and felt like dog shit and felt I was losing muscle. When I go on a giant deficit like this, the added slin Intra makes me feel like i'm holding onto my LBM during the most stressful times, during my WO...if that makes any sense haha

I like it. Do you burn up from the added intra carbs and dnp? You taking all 400mg at once or space them?

 

[Elvia1023]

Going to jump back on a PSMF for a couple weeks and wondering what's the lowest protein you guys have ever done (both in terms of total grams and number of meals).

The last time I did the PSMF i ate 50g of protein from chicken breast every 5-7 hours, but I am wondering if I can go even lower without experiencing significant muscle loss.

Just FYI, I'll be running 200mg Tren E. EOD, 250mg DNP, 25mcg T3, and 250iu HCG EOD. .

You should have protein much higher. Less is not always more. The calories won't stop you losing fat. You don't want calories too low. Keep it very basic with a variety of protein sources. I would have fats in the form of EFA supps such as Animal Omega and Krill/Fish oil etc. I would also use a small amount of carbs pre/intra workout.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I like it. Do you burn up from the added intra carbs and dnp? You taking all 400mg at once or space them?

Nah not really at all man.
I actually feel the heat much worse on the fat loading days...the trace amount of carbs in nuts for whatever reason like me on fiiiire.

 

[BoredStiff]

Only somewhat related because I've never fasted but I had some stomach issues creep up about 4 years ago and basically I just couldn't handle that much food anymore.

For a 2 year period I had three meals per day that almost always looked like this:

Breakfast: One scoop of whey mixed with 1 tbsp of almond butter and 3 tbsp Flas Seeds
Lunch: One small serving of ground beef (about 4oz) with vegetables and 2 tbsp of olive oil
Dinner: One piece of salmon cooked in butter with one small avocado

That's it. About 75g of protein and I didn't count anything but I doubt that's more than 12-1500 calories per day. I painted 180-185lbs at 5'8 the entire two years no problem, zero strength loss.

Now, I don't know if I'm an anomaly or what but it led me to really re-think food. I just don't need very much of anything. And I always had trouble losing fat, it's way easier now that I'm not randomly eating some set number of protein just because.

People were like, how can you be full from a tiny piece of salmon with a few avocado slices. Im like, that's how I feel good. If I do 50g of protein per meal, six times a day, like I'm "supposed to", i feel bloated and like crap all day, and I gain about an inch on my waist and 10lbs on the scale.

That's just me though.