Pct problem / need help

[Deleted member 218261]

A good friend needs your help an opinion or a suggestion . Almost 15 weeks ago he started pct. I will write out the results and how they changed. 5 weeks ago the results looked really good, this weeks result have gotten worse even though nothing changed. Please advise what could have caused this.

April
Pct start
Clom 100/50
Nolva 40/20
Hcg 1500 e2d
1st Blood 4 week after pct
Test 206. Norm 250-900
Estro 56. Norm 60-190
Fsh. 1.2. Norm 1.6-80
Lh 0.2. Norm 1.5-9.3

After 4 week
2nd blood
Clom 50
Nolva 20
Ari 0.5 e3d
Hcg 1500 e2d
Hmg 50 e2d

Test 260 Norm 250-900
Estro 140 Norm 60-190
Fsh. 1.2. Norm 1.6-80
Lh 0.9 Norm 1.5-9.3

After 4 week
3rd blood
Test 290. Norm 250-900
Estro 70. Norm 60-190
Fsh. 6.9 Norm 1.6-80
Lh 6.0 Norm 1.5-9.3
Blood looks good he stop sarms
And stay only on hcg/hmg

After 5 week ( last week)
4th blood
Test 78. Norm 250-900
Estro 88 Norm 60-190
Fsh. 3.3. Norm 1.6-80
Lh. 0.2. Norm 1.5-9.3

[emoji20]

Why test go down and lh ?? He not used nothing...

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[TripppleP]

PCT will artificially raise your levels and possibly give your body a better chance at returning to baseline although it is still artificial substance to your body. Your body will still go through a dip following PCT before it is able to be triggered into restarting normal levels. This can take time and varies per person.

 

[Deleted member 218261]

Yes understend .. but check
5 weeks ago blood tests looks very good
Nr4

Customer just used hcg /hmg...

And after 6 weeks ... block back.



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[Rogue]

SARMS had an effect it seems.

 

[Deleted member 218261]

SARMS had an effect it seems.

Ye looks like evrything dump after he stop sarms

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[Freedom15Muscle]

I rebound from nolva personally, so I prefer clomid and Taper down to 25mg. I also don't like to pound large amounts of HCG. 150-250 daily in the mornings would more likely follow natural hormonal conditions. I always throw in zinc, magnesium and other vitamins like high dose B12, D3, and vitamin C for hormonal support. Keep the vitamins high for sure. 2iu GH has always helped keep me lean and hold size.This is what I found has worked for me for pct.

Last time I gave my body a break it took me about 4 months to normalize. It will vary greatly from person to person like others have said. Unfortunately PCT really is just a crutch. The whole idea is to recover but your still using synthetic hormones.

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[Swifto]

A good friend needs your help an opinion or a suggestion . Almost 15 weeks ago he started pct. I will write out the results and how they changed. 5 weeks ago the results looked really good, this weeks result have gotten worse even though nothing changed. Please advise what could have caused this.

April
Pct start
Clom 100/50
Nolva 40/20
Hcg 1500 e2d
1st Blood 4 week after pct
Test 206. Norm 250-900
Estro 56. Norm 60-190
Fsh. 1.2. Norm 1.6-80
Lh 0.2. Norm 1.5-9.3

After 4 week
2nd blood
Clom 50
Nolva 20
Ari 0.5 e3d
Hcg 1500 e2d
Hmg 50 e2d

Test 260 Norm 250-900
Estro 140 Norm 60-190
Fsh. 1.2. Norm 1.6-80
Lh 0.9 Norm 1.5-9.3

After 4 week
3rd blood
Test 290. Norm 250-900
Estro 70. Norm 60-190
Fsh. 6.9 Norm 1.6-80
Lh 6.0 Norm 1.5-9.3
Blood looks good he stop sarms
And stay only on hcg/hmg

After 5 week ( last week)
4th blood
Test 78. Norm 250-900
Estro 88 Norm 60-190
Fsh. 3.3. Norm 1.6-80
Lh. 0.2. Norm 1.5-9.3

[emoji20]

Why test go down and lh ?? He not used nothing...

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What AAS did he run?

I can bet he used a long acting testosterone preparation for 10-12 plus weeks?

It will take around 5 weeks to clear his system, not this bullshit of 10-14 days you see in AAS forums stating when to start PCT (yes I used to advise this too!).

PCT should start 4-5 half lives after the final AAS administration.

The reason this BW is good at the start is there is still active exogenous testosterone present. FSH and LH are also very low, so its not endogenous hormone secretion.

Then the exogenous Test tapers off with time and his test level drops through the floor. LH and FSH are getting higher, but I think oestrogen has had an suppressive effects here too on his HPTA.

SERMs are selective and when you remove the drug I've seen an E rebound and I think that's evident here. E has risen and contributing to the HPTA inhibition. Always taper your SERMs after PCT.