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I never understood why people get so mad that athletes cant be juiced to the gills. I want to see the best players I dont want to see a contest to whose body can tolerate the most drugs or what athlete has the best scientist to make him the best cocktail of drugs.
I never understood why people get so mad that athletes cant be juiced to the gills. I want to see the best players I dont want to see a contest to whose body can tolerate the most drugs or what athlete has the best scientist to make him the best cocktail of drugs.
A line has to be drawn somewhere I like most people draw it at aas. What If you were competing for the usa in the Olympics in swimming, then got your ass handed to you by the Chinese. Then saw an article where they beat you because their scientists developed a wonder drug that increases their endurance by 200%. You wouldn't consider them cheaters and argue that you could have won on a level playing field?
I am not, I know of competitive bodybuilders just from being on the forums to learn things to improve me but I dont follow it. But competitive bodybuilding and actual sports to me are in no way the same. One is creating an illusion and the other involves actual skill and performing under pressure. I believe powerlifting there is a market for hormonized athletes but when it comes to athletic sports nfl, nba, MLB there is a reason the majority look down on guys who use aas.
Are you some kind of retarded or am I misunderstanding?
The Olympics are a chemical-political war, what the hell are you talking about?
Are you some kind of retarded or am I misunderstanding?
The Olympics are a chemical-political war, what the hell are you talking about?
That's a fair opinion then but I dont get the comparison between powerlifting and major sports. Yes everyone loves seeing huge lifts. But they also loved seeing Bonds/McWire/Sosa blasting 65+ home runs a season. Or Shawn Merriman and Bill Romanowski knocking guys helmets off on tackles.
No need to insult the dude. Geez can't ever have a normal conversation on here (or anywhere anymore) without people insulting those they disagree with...
What proof beyond conspiracy theory do you have that the Olympics are "chemical war". I am not up on it at all but do know the Olympic testing standards and they are about as strict as possible (not perfect of course) and I dont know of a bunch of athletes getting caught. Has there been? Again, I know the testing isn't fool proof but it seems as best as humanly possible.
I never understood why people get so mad that athletes cant be juiced to the gills.
I am not, I know of competitive bodybuilders just from being on the forums to learn things to improve me but I dont follow it. But competitive bodybuilding and actual sports to me are in no way the same. One is creating an illusion and the other involves actual skill and performing under pressure. I believe powerlifting there is a market for hormonized athletes but when it comes to athletic sports nfl, nba, MLB there is a reason the majority look down on guys who use aas.
A "chemical political war" ? Check your estrogen levels you seem a bit dramatic. The Olympics are a sporting event.
I agree I love big hits and homeruns as much as the next guy but also look at it like this. Lawrence taylor, a druggie, was still 10x the physical freak as bill romanowski looking all stiff and popping 40 pills a day. Sean taylor and Lawrence taylor could do crack and get out of bed and lay harder hits than merriman and Romo any day, and their bodies didn't break down. The over juiced athletes always break down early.
Also, its laughable when twinks like David segui and Brady Anderson slam 50 homeruns, it dilutes the sport.
So, what you are saying is that some players are genetically (i.e. unfairly) more gifted than others.
I don't see how that is any more "fair" than AAS in sports. If anything, AAS level the playing field by partially nullifying certain genetic advantages. They make sports MORE fair. If one were allowed to take drugs in all sports, at least then it is a choice one can make, whereas we have no choice in the genetics that are handed to us.
A line has to be drawn somewhere I like most people draw it at aas. What If you were competing for the usa in the Olympics in swimming, then got your ass handed to you by the Chinese. Then saw an article where they beat you because their scientists developed a wonder drug that increases their endurance by 200%. You wouldn't consider them cheaters and argue that you could have won on a level playing field?
The way I look at it. I use aas to look better. They are chemicals. I have no allegiance to them or others that use them. I was a sports fan before I used aas to enhance my physique.
The biggest uneven playing field in life is genetics.
People complain about steroids creating an unfair advantage, but genetics are probably the biggest “unfair” advantage in this world. Some guys are bigger, stronger, faster, smarter and more resilient which makes them excel in various sports and endeavors of life.
We can’t just go around locking those guys up now (although nowadays the “everybody is special” movement might [emoji846])
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So, what you are saying is that some players are genetically (i.e. unfairly) more gifted than others.
I don't see how that is any more "fair" than AAS in sports. If anything, AAS level the playing field by partially nullifying certain genetic advantages. They make sports MORE fair. If one were allowed to take drugs in all sports, at least then it is a choice one can make, whereas we have no choice in the genetics that are handed to us.
Using your logic, the kickers with the weakest legs we could move the goal posts in for. Or the slower players could use motor scooters. A line has to be drawn s ok somewhere and the line that has been drawn is before chemical enhancement. If there is a market to support a leage of juiced up players someone will start one and it will thrive (capitalism). So far the only competitive event where this has occurred is bodybuilding. Fans of sports have rejected aas usage and genetic doping and measures to enhance or make it fair so less genetic gifted athletes can compete by using chemicals.
No need to insult the dude. Geez can't ever have a normal conversation on here (or anywhere anymore) without people insulting those they disagree with...
What proof beyond conspiracy theory do you have that the Olympics are "chemical war". I am not up on it at all but do know the Olympic testing standards and they are about as strict as possible (not perfect of course) and I dont know of a bunch of athletes getting caught. Has there been? Again, I know the testing isn't fool proof but it seems as best as humanly possible.