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Old 08-09-2019, 04:32 AM
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HCG + Clomid + HMG Dosing for Sperm Count

Alrighty, zero anabolic use since 2013.

Just got my sperm levels checked and came in at the bottom 2.5% of males at 5M sperm per ml. Normal is 40M-200M.

Anyone have any personal experiences conceiving post AAS abuse? What protocols were most affective for you?

Did anyone conceive while on TRT or pellet therapy?
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:58 AM
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Wanted to start my own thread about fertility specifically sperm morphology.

I reached out to Dave palumbo and DC and they shared their protocols with me. Pretty similar to what you posted. 2000iu hcg every other day 75iu hmg every other day Different days and 50mg daily clomid.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:08 PM
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easy issue to solve

hcg
hmg
clomid

pregnancy guaranteed pretty much, just a matter of when (weeks)
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Old 08-10-2019, 02:42 PM
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In your opinion is it possible to achieve healthy sperm levels while on trt?
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:17 PM
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In your opinion is it possible to achieve healthy sperm levels while on trt?
yes it is, no doubt there: hcg, hmg

your fertility levels will return
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:04 AM
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In your opinion is it possible to achieve healthy sperm levels while on trt?


Why chance it.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:56 PM
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Why chance it.
if the guy needs trt then he needs it. nobody is doing trt and replacing what they already have for the fun of daily injections next 54 years.

so trt by definition is needed so he needs hcg/hmg to keep his fertility
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:28 AM
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if the guy needs trt then he needs it. nobody is doing trt and replacing what they already have for the fun of daily injections next 54 years.



so trt by definition is needed so he needs hcg/hmg to keep his fertility


I need it too. But if my chances are better to come off then Iíd do that. Get the job done ASAP and hop back on.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:30 AM
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I need it too. But if my chances are better to come off then Iíd do that. Get the job done ASAP and hop back on.
Been there and done that.

Next time I will be trying to stay on trt for first 6months of trying. If that doesnt work then i will come off.

Last time i went from heavy use of everything. Off 12 weeks and sperm count of 120million. Not much good with no sex drive at all. Lucky she got pregnant the first time we had sex when i was off. Even with viagra and cialis was like trying to get a bit of cooked spaghetti through a key hole.

Even once back on mentally and sexually took a good 6 months to feel almost normal again.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:57 PM
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I need it too. But if my chances are better to come off then Iíd do that. Get the job done ASAP and hop back on.
there is no need to go off and after 2 weeks of going off you are guaranteed to feel like death. no fun having 120 test in your body and free test barely detectable.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:56 AM
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there is no need to go off and after 2 weeks of going off you are guaranteed to feel like death. no fun having 120 test in your body and free test barely detectable.


Lol. Thatís over the top.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:28 AM
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You can search my old posts for details, but as I've posted before, I successfully used Test + HCG + HMG to raise my sperm count from zero to 35 million, without ever going off of testosterone. And I have been using test and other steroids for over 27 years, so I was completely shut down when I started my fertility program.

I also used Clomid and Proviron and Letrozole during this time, but I don't feel they added anything to the program. If I had to do it all over again, I would keep to:

200-300mg test per week
500iu HCG every other day
30iu HMG or FSH every day

My wife is currently six months pregnant, and we are expecting a healthy baby girl in November.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:30 PM
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Lol. Thatís over the top.
over the top? you do know that when on trt you are suppressed, so when you come off you wont produce anything, yes?

i am talking literally below 100 levels of total test.
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