Help please

[Eldiablo72]

I couldn't think of any better place to get real good advice from, so here goes, I'm 5'6 215lbs 8% bf 40 years old, been lifting for at least 20 years
Just did my 1st show last year and won 1st in middleweight open
I'm currently running sust 250 750mg a week, tren 100 300mg a week, deca 200 600 a week
My problem is that I don't have an appetite to eat enough food to gain any mass, I feel like I'm going to vomit, even with the smallest meal. I have resorted to drinking egg whites and mass gainer shakes, but I know I need to eat real food, my stomach is bloated and distended. Any suggestions on how to increase appetite and decrease this horrible stomach bloat?
Thanks for any info
ElDiablo

 

[sbc5966]

You can switch up your macros to get in more calorie dense foods. E.G. Higher fat, lower carb but same cals.

For instance, if you eat 6 meals a day and all 6 of those meals have 1 cup of oats uncooked. Assuming you use 1.5X water when you brew your oats that is about 14 oz of (prepared oats) 6 times per day. Just under 5.5 pounds of food!

2 ounces of peanut butter has 20 more calories than a full cup of oats.
10 ounces of food vs 84 ounces of food for comparable calories.

Feasibly, you could cut your oats to half a cup mer meal and add in 1 oz peanut butter and your calories would be comparable.

Or you could cut your oats in half and add 2 ounces of peanut butter and add almost another 500 calories daily.

Alternatively you can just put a tablespoon of oil in your food and cut some other foods out.

There are many ways to skin a cat.

If you are 215 lbs there is no reason to get any more than 300 grams of protein per day (and even that is really pushing it in my opinion). I don't see the need to drink eggs in order to get protein in.

Other calories? I can understand.

Good luck! Experimentation with what works best for you is key.

 

[Eldiablo72]

Thank you, very good info!

 

[pimpman]

First thing u need is blood work.check your kidney and liver.no hunger and feeling like u want to vomit is a good tell tell that they may be stressed

 

[Eldiablo72]

Good advice pimpman, I have a job which requires me to get a medical physical with blood work every 6 months and all my levels where normal 1 month ago.

 

[cardealer]

Try DWGE from Phil for bloat,Ghrp 6 make so hungry the dogs not safe.

 

[AshopRep]

Ghrp 6 would be very beneficial for you.

 

[sazo75]

Easiest thing for me when I was eating around 5.5k calories a day was making pb&j croissant sandwiches or on regular bread , I found croissants to be more calorie dense and tastier. After you make the sandwiches squish it together and make it really small like your packing a snowball , then chug it down with some whole milk. Also if you have honey available I would recommend topping it with some honey.

I was stuck at about 220 and this finally got me up to 240 in about 16 weeks while on cycle , my metabolism is fast and pair it with my training volume and my weight and I have to eat a ton of calories, I had to come up with creative calorie dense meals in order to beat it.

 

[Eldiablo72]

You guys are great! Thanks for all the info

 

[triathloncoach]

This place is great! Where else is gluttony a virtue!

 

[AshopRep]

This place is great! Where else is gluttony a virtue!

We are all kwazy.

 

[Aliendogstar]

First thing u need is blood work.check your kidney and liver.no hunger and feeling like u want to vomit is a good tell tell that they may be stressed

When I heard no appetite, my mind immediately followed suit with Pimpman.

 

[GS]

Man when i run deca and tren together i couldn't eat and my stomach blew up.
I don't know why but never used them together again and never had that problem anymore.
I love tren also but try not to use it even without the deca.

 

[pimpman]

Good advice pimpman, I have a job which requires me to get a medical physical with blood work every 6 months and all my levels where normal 1 month ago.

That's great to hear.but u be surprised what can happen in just one month.

If u can afford it or get it done through insurance get one done if everything comes back good then at least u know it's not due to health issues.

Ghrp-6 is great idea and advice but if they happen to be stressed u gonna make it so much worse by eating that much cuz of the ghrp-6

 

[Flix]

When I run Orals I lose my appetite by about three weeks in. This last time I had my blood tested before dropping the oral. My liver numbers were above normal, and even above where I'm at on just oils.

Within a week or two of stopping the oral my appetite is back to normal!
So for me that's proof enough that Orals hit my liver and ruin my appetite

 

[Problem]

First thing u need is blood work.check your kidney and liver.no hunger and feeling like u want to vomit is a good tell tell that they may be stressed

That's inaccurate.. it has nothin to do with kidneys or liver.. must be a reaction to one of the compounds you're running. Deca kills my appetite for an example.. calorie dense food is your best bet

 

[sbc5966]

Maybe I misread, but from what I gathered it's not that OP did not have an appetite, it's that he did not have ENOUGH of an appetite to GAIN. Those are big differences. Power shoving is not a natural thing.

 

[Eldiablo72]

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Maybe I misread, but from what I gathered it's not that OP did not have an appetite, it's that he did not have ENOUGH of an appetite to GAIN. Those are big differences. Power shoving is not a natural thing.
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Bingo!! Sry if I didn't make that clear. I eat, I just can't eat enough, I get full and feel like I'm going to vomit half way thru my meal.

 

[Eldiablo72]

Thanks problem.

 

[juice monkey]

Engorge works awesome, can't remember the brand, but bodybuilding.com carries it.