Insuline while dieting

jay_steel · Nov 18, 2013

I have been off sline for a bit and had it dialed in just nicely, and i know people are tired of these threads about sline, but curious if anyone runs it on low carbs at all and while prepping for a show.

Medic08 · Nov 18, 2013

Are you GH15 or something? What's with the E at the end of slin?

Knight9 · Nov 18, 2013

I really wish these repeated threads would stop being repeated. Especially every few days.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...e-forum/108093-insulin-use-while-cutting.html

heavyhitter · Nov 18, 2013

There are people who do it. There are obviously risks involved here so I would start out low, like 3 iu's, and make sure to have carbs on hand just in case until you find out how your body reacts

jay_steel · Nov 18, 2013

Knight9 said:
I really wish these repeated threads would stop being repeated. Especially every few days.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...e-forum/108093-insulin-use-while-cutting.html

thanks for the thread, i did my search a few weeks ago and didnt really find what i was looking for. This thread also doesnt really give allot of details.

Maybe I was vague in my post, but kind of looking for what peoples results have been and how they did it. How many carbs where they eating a day and ect.

I read I have talked to Mike Arnold about his protocol and i ran something very similar while bulking, but wanted to see if people change up the usually protocol while in a prep.

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Also i would be on humlin for now. Trying to get some humalog. My training is at 6pm also...

6iu gh will be ran, but no GH15

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I ran Humalin -r at 15iu and did fine in the past.

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Some big questions are should i only run slin on my heavy days where I am refeading or should I go no carbs until i do slin and then just do enough carbs to keep me out of hypo on my low carb days like say 175 carbs normally keeps me feeling great on 15ius.

jay_steel · Nov 18, 2013

heavyhitter said:
There are people who do it. There are obviously risks involved here so I would start out low, like 3 iu's, and make sure to have carbs on hand just in case until you find out how your body reacts

i keep glucose tabs and carbs with me at all times on it and my meter.

Knight9 · Nov 18, 2013

My good friend has been prepping for a show the last 18-20 wks and has been using 15iu pre workout. Around the workout(pre meal, intra shake, post meal) he is around 120g carbs, down from 160 from when he started. This is due to down sizing his post workout meal carbs.

Keep in mind if you do them on no carbs(before administration), it may hit you MUCH harder since your blood sugar levels haven't been elevated at all that day. You are asking a lot of questions that are HIGHLY individualized and will depend on a lot of factors. Personally, the way I would tweak Mike Arnold's protocol on a diet is probably use one large shake (75-100g) intra and use real food for pre and post workout carbs, but that is just my opinion on one way that may work better in that situation. At the end of the day you really have to experiment carefully and listen to your own body and how it is reacting.

jay_steel · Nov 18, 2013

thank you I appreciate it allot. Yeah i understand its really individualized based on how my body reacts compared to others.

thanks for the help. I will put it in to great use. Trying to win the novice overall as a MW at the Fresno Classic. Its suppose to be allot bigger this year as well. They are trying to get a two day expo to draw in more people.

Knight9 · Nov 18, 2013

jay_steel said:
thank you I appreciate it allot. Yeah i understand its really individualized based on how my body reacts compared to others.

thanks for the help. I will put it in to great use. Trying to win the novice overall as a MW at the Fresno Classic. Its suppose to be allot bigger this year as well. They are trying to get a two day expo to draw in more people.

No offense bro but I can't even imagine slamming slin just for a novice overall as a middleweight being the goal. Good luck, regardless..

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therealone · Nov 18, 2013

Start low

I started off low and and added an iu every day or 2 till i got to about 10iu. If you keep a meter and some fast digesting carbs, you should be okay! Good Luck I hope you blow em away!

gorilla2015 · Nov 18, 2013

If one is using slin pre workout for contest prep ....when are u doing your cardio ? and can you do your cardio right after ur weights workout while slin is still somewhat in your system ?

jay_steel · Nov 19, 2013

gorilla2015 said:
If one is using slin pre workout for contest prep ....when are u doing your cardio ? and can you do your cardio right after ur weights workout while slin is still somewhat in your system ?

last year i did fasted cardio in the AM, but I can do either way. After my training or before.

Right now I am far out from the show still but getting things cleaned up and adding stairs in 3 times a week for a short time post workout.

Is there a benefit to this?

thanks guys for all of the help and info.

jay_steel · Nov 19, 2013

Knight9 said:
No offense bro but I can't even imagine slamming slin just for a novice overall as a middleweight being the goal. Good luck, regardless..

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Well this is my goal for this show coming up. I want to place high in the Contra Costa in unlimited as well and would love to see nationals in a couple years. I understand your concern and appreciate it.

Knight9 · Nov 19, 2013

jay_steel said:
Well this is my goal for this show coming up. I want to place high in the Contra Costa in unlimited as well and would love to see nationals in a couple years. I understand your concern and appreciate it.

What is unlimited?

jay_steel · Nov 19, 2013

Knight9 said:
What is unlimited?

Its what they call the Open class, non novice, not sure if its a west coast or CA thing, but its what they call the class here.

heavyhitter · Nov 19, 2013

Knight9 said:
No offense bro but I can't even imagine slamming slin just for a novice overall as a middleweight being the goal. Good luck, regardless..

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Honestly, I think that Slin is probably one of the safer drugs that ae abused by bodybuilders as long as the person using it has an understanding of what it is and does and as long as it is not used in crazy doses. Tren, clen,dnp, diuretics are all much worse for you long term mho

southernmuscle214 · Nov 19, 2013

Knight9 said:
No offense bro but I can't even imagine slamming slin just for a novice overall as a middleweight being the goal. Good luck, regardless..

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Ya if you have to use slin for novice middles you probably dont have "it"

raw33man · Nov 19, 2013

Medic08 said:
Are you GH15 or something? What's with the E at the end of slin?

gh15 uses "a" not "e"

slina, insulina, trena, trenebolna

heavyhitter · Nov 19, 2013

southernmuscle214 said:
Ya if you have to use slin for novice middles you probably dont have "it"

Who says he "has" to use it. It is an effective tool that is readily available. Anybody who competes is always looking for some sort of edge or that extra little bit

nidal ak · Nov 19, 2013

jay_steel said:
thank you I appreciate it allot. Yeah i understand its really individualized based on how my body reacts compared to others.

thanks for the help. I will put it in to great use. Trying to win the novice overall as a MW at the Fresno Classic. Its suppose to be allot bigger this year as well. They are trying to get a two day expo to draw in more people.

your problem is with the amount of food you are eating daily. taking slin and eating the same amount of food wont do a lot of difference
start eating like a heavy weight for around 3 months then use slin and you will be surprised