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I just started another thread on TRT and heart health ( http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...cardiac-health-convo-maldorf.html#post2194259 ) which I researched based on what I'm going into here. This an update to a thread I started about a year ago for anyone interested in heart health and what happened ( http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...aas-lower-my-ejection-fraction-permanent.html ). Essentially my Ejection Fraction was only ~50% and given normal is 55-70% and my father's is 60% my reading concerned me, along with my chest pain that was getting more significant and consistent.
I came off everything but my TRT since about March and for the last 9 months I've been taking the following, all of which have been shown to have some type of benefit on the heart (1-3 of which directly shown to increase EF%):
3g Acetyl L-Carnitine
1130mg Hawthorn Berry
200mg Ubiquinol
2-3g Taurine
300mg Magnesium Malate
10g D-Ribose
1440mg Abana per day
6-7g Fish Oil
1500mg Curcumin w Bioperine (recently switched to BCM-95)
Chest pain was occasionally still there but had diminished significantly in both frequency and severity. So I was very hopeful. I had talked with Maldorf and I know he and Chris250 had reduced EFs and then when they came off their numbers got to 50+% again so another reason I was expecting significant improvements.
Well I had my echo done last week, and it's essentially the same. Needless to say it was pretty disappointing. My chest pain is actually worse today (right now) than it's been in a while, which makes me wonder if it is somehow related to anxiety i.e. the concern about my results causing it (which I had previously dismissed since I am not an anxious person in general and tend to be calm and objective)
In any case, just figured I'd update about that for those interested. I'm not necessarily looking for advice here but of course if anyone has informative ideas to share I'd love to hear them. And hopefully it can help someone out if they had anything similar happen to them, or were looking into these supplements.
My doctors just tell me to "keep an eye on it" and now want me tested again in 3 years. Not exactly comforting in my opinion. I was considering coming off even TRT but as a number of the studies I posted in the above thread show that's probably not the best move either.
I came off everything but my TRT since about March and for the last 9 months I've been taking the following, all of which have been shown to have some type of benefit on the heart (1-3 of which directly shown to increase EF%):
3g Acetyl L-Carnitine
1130mg Hawthorn Berry
200mg Ubiquinol
2-3g Taurine
300mg Magnesium Malate
10g D-Ribose
1440mg Abana per day
6-7g Fish Oil
1500mg Curcumin w Bioperine (recently switched to BCM-95)
Chest pain was occasionally still there but had diminished significantly in both frequency and severity. So I was very hopeful. I had talked with Maldorf and I know he and Chris250 had reduced EFs and then when they came off their numbers got to 50+% again so another reason I was expecting significant improvements.
Well I had my echo done last week, and it's essentially the same. Needless to say it was pretty disappointing. My chest pain is actually worse today (right now) than it's been in a while, which makes me wonder if it is somehow related to anxiety i.e. the concern about my results causing it (which I had previously dismissed since I am not an anxious person in general and tend to be calm and objective)
In any case, just figured I'd update about that for those interested. I'm not necessarily looking for advice here but of course if anyone has informative ideas to share I'd love to hear them. And hopefully it can help someone out if they had anything similar happen to them, or were looking into these supplements.
My doctors just tell me to "keep an eye on it" and now want me tested again in 3 years. Not exactly comforting in my opinion. I was considering coming off even TRT but as a number of the studies I posted in the above thread show that's probably not the best move either.
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