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I have been intermittent fasting for a few months again to cut some bodyfat and keep insulin sensitivity in my body. It feels healthy and great and I actually have more energy during the day if I wait until 12-1pm to eat (I wake early). I usually drink 2 cups of black coffee with extra cinnamon added and have 10g BCAA and an extra 5g Leucine along with 2 units of GH.
According to my research, supplementing with BCAAs or Leucine without the presence of all the EAAs from whole food will produce a much smaller spike in protein synthesis. So, taking this idea, it seems reasonable to have a protein shake with the BCAAs to produce the best possible spike in protein synthesis in the morning (to boost recovery from training)....however this would draw you out of the fast and ruin the purpose of intermittent fasting....sigh...
So, curious about what my protein levels would be at the deepest part of the fast, I had blood drawn recently and part of the testing was to test my protein level total. Without having taken BCAAs that morning (or any other food) I had my blood drawn around 1pm and my protein levels came back upper/mid range. I had a huge dinner the night before (every night ~3/4lb of some type of meat) which apparently keeps my protein level somewhat high for 16 hours at least. So, my circulating levels of aminos in my blood is upper normal range fasted 16hr post eating.
So, based off of this knowledge, would it be reasonable to continue the course of intermittent fasting and supplementing with BCAAs and expecting I am getting the largest spike in protein synthesis possible WITHOUT having to add in whole foods in the AM (thus ruining the purpose of the fast)?
I guess my priorities are equally weighted: 1) health of my body/insulin sensitivity, 2)muscle gain (minimal goal 2-5lb before the Fall) and 3) fat/water loss (total 5lb loss before Fall). If push came to shove 1) and 3) are my priorities in lieu of any possible mass gain in muscle. I have been at homeostasis for a year now on low dose TRT/GH routine with my weight/muscle mass so the goals may seem low but that would be a huge change for me.
Thanks for your thoughts PM :headbang:
According to my research, supplementing with BCAAs or Leucine without the presence of all the EAAs from whole food will produce a much smaller spike in protein synthesis. So, taking this idea, it seems reasonable to have a protein shake with the BCAAs to produce the best possible spike in protein synthesis in the morning (to boost recovery from training)....however this would draw you out of the fast and ruin the purpose of intermittent fasting....sigh...
So, curious about what my protein levels would be at the deepest part of the fast, I had blood drawn recently and part of the testing was to test my protein level total. Without having taken BCAAs that morning (or any other food) I had my blood drawn around 1pm and my protein levels came back upper/mid range. I had a huge dinner the night before (every night ~3/4lb of some type of meat) which apparently keeps my protein level somewhat high for 16 hours at least. So, my circulating levels of aminos in my blood is upper normal range fasted 16hr post eating.
So, based off of this knowledge, would it be reasonable to continue the course of intermittent fasting and supplementing with BCAAs and expecting I am getting the largest spike in protein synthesis possible WITHOUT having to add in whole foods in the AM (thus ruining the purpose of the fast)?
I guess my priorities are equally weighted: 1) health of my body/insulin sensitivity, 2)muscle gain (minimal goal 2-5lb before the Fall) and 3) fat/water loss (total 5lb loss before Fall). If push came to shove 1) and 3) are my priorities in lieu of any possible mass gain in muscle. I have been at homeostasis for a year now on low dose TRT/GH routine with my weight/muscle mass so the goals may seem low but that would be a huge change for me.
Thanks for your thoughts PM :headbang:
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