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Without getting bloodwork done-what are the 3 most common symptoms of High and 3 most common symptoms of Low Estrogen In some of you more experienced guys?
I've had the opposite happen in my experience. I've felt better when E2 was high, rather than when it was too low. The worst I ever felt on cycle was when I crashed my E2.High - bloated/water retention, tired/no motivation, loss of appetite.
Low - ummm...ive tested at 3 on sensitive estradiol and felt pretty decent and was extremely horny.
I appear to be hypersensitive to estrogen, I also have low shbg and i think it is related. Seems more guys with low shbg have a real hard time getting dialed in and controlling estrogen.I've had the opposite happen in my experience. I've felt better when E2 was high, rather than when it was too low. The worst I ever felt on cycle was when I crashed my E2.
Put it this way........I'd much rather have my Estradiol levels @ 50 than 5.
This is just one more example of how we all react to this stuff differently.
I've had the opposite happen in my experience. I've felt better when E2 was high, rather than when it was too low. The worst I ever felt on cycle was when I crashed my E2.
Put it this way........I'd much rather have my Estradiol levels @ 50 than 5.
This is just one more example of how we all react to this stuff differently.
Without getting bloodwork done-what are the 3 most common symptoms of High and 3 most common symptoms of Low Estrogen In some of you more experienced guys?
High - bloated/water retention, tired/no motivation, loss of appetite.
Low - ummm...ive tested at 3 on sensitive estradiol and felt pretty decent and was extremely horny.
Just reading you last post of symptoms, yep, seems we tend to share similar experiences, lol.As i've said in other threads, i'm very similar to you. With 125-250 mg of test per week, i feel great with 12.5-25 mg of aromasin per day. With the same e2 readings on bloods, but with letrozole, i feel like shit (bloated, can't fuck, nipple sensitivity, no pump, no motivation, loss of muscle and so on).
Just reading you last post of symptoms, yep, seems we tend to share similar experiences, lol.
I cant explain why letrozole affects you differently but one of my theories would be shbg. It's well documented that aromasin lowers shbg, guessing other ai's do too but i don't think at the same rate. The lower shbg, the higher the free test, with free test higher, body converts more test to estrogen, requiring ai dose to go up(i used to be able to take less ai, have "normal" e2 numbers(24-25) and do decent. Now those numbers and ai dosing doesn't work at all. Anyways, as estrogen conversion is blocked by the ai, the body then starts dumping test to dht causing high levels of dht. I think this is where the results of aromasin and letrozole vary. Its the dht that is making you hard, dry, less bloat, dry lips/skin, achy joints, etc. Not because of low e but because of high dht. I'm assuming you also have some hair loss?
I suffer from receding hairline. Last year I started taking little to no ai(never felt good off ai, felt okay sometimes but never had an "edge") and noticed my hair growing back, didn't matter the test dose, anywhere from 125-500mg, hair was going back. At first I thought it was something to do with the ai specifically but I now believe it has to do with the blocking of estrogen(100% necessary for me to feel normal) and the forced conversion of excess test to dht.
I believe that shbg dictates the level of estrogen one needs and is equally important to test as estradiol is.
Just some theories of mine.
Edit: wanted to add, if i add in any other compounds, doesn't matter what compound, it seems to very quickly throw everything out of whack.
4months ? Were you continuously taking double the dose ? Or it took 4months to bounce back ?So you're already going to see how drastically this varies by person. For me. High: Bloated, zero sex drive, terrible acne. Low: Whack lipids... I feel great though. I accidentally dropped my sensitive E2 to 6pg/dl for about 4 months, I accidentally took double the dose of liquid aromasin because I'm an idiot .... I felt amazing, I was pretty shocked that it was tanked when I did bloodwork.