Call Me Dave
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He will be on trt eventually
Why postpone the inevitable?
Why postpone the inevitable?
My life, but with IP and the risking the shotty BD floating around.
Francis hit it on the head though. But when I was younger nothing could have stopped me, I knew the consequences and the risks associated with usage from my folks preaching, the boards solidified this, I still didn’t care!! I just reached a goal my parents didn’t think I’d reach, then juiced.
Hind site, not worth losing hair, having shit relationships, inconsistent ED, bp issues, self image issues, anxiety, and everything else that we get to enjoy.
If he wants to spend his life figuring out the best way to combat whatever side he’s gonna experience (most likely with more drugs), let him do it. I know that’s the choice I made, hell, that’s what most of us here did. But start with test, he may find it’s not for him if he’s not a (good) responder.
People regret using them because they realize how night and day the difference is. Coming off fucks with your head. You look like a beast on gear. Its addicting. How can you not want to take something that makes you look fucking awesome.I got on for good when I was 33. I have zero regrets other than not starting younger. It was one of the best decisions I've made.
I didn't know there were so many steroid users who regret starting in the first place.
People regret using them because they realize how night and day the difference is. Coming off fucks with your head. You look like a beast on gear. Its addicting. How can you not want to take something that makes you look fucking awesome.
Why would people want to come off once they're on? I've been on test year round for 12 years now. I knew from the start that it was a lifetime commitment. I'm happy about having high testosterone levels for the rest of my life instead of having to deal with the slow decline that comes with aging.
I could understand someone regretting not having kids and having fertility problems from gear. I never wanted kids, though. I really don't want them now at 45.
I never recommend gear to people and usually the complete opposite. However if someone loves the gym and is serious and not an idiot and they have a decent base then sure. It's a awkward subject because you don't want them to go alone or get advice from some idiot in the gym who doesn't have a clue. At the same time these people are asking for advice but usually a hook up as well so it could mean assisting them obtaining it as well.
I understand all the views in this thread. Although from the info you posted he sounds like an ideal candidate for gear imo. When I first started I knew of many users but they were all just abusers with no knowledge at all and I went completely on my own from the start. I ordered online and just went from steroid profiles. My 1st cycle was tren a and dbol Not high doses and only 6 weeks but obviously I read the profiles and they sounded the best. So I started that way and totally clueless and I would like to think I came out fine and have learnt a lot over the years. This guy could be taught all the important stuff from day 1 and he is 28 so is a grown man so he should go for it. When guys say 28 is too young because they started at 45 I have to laugh. 28 is not young at all and a perfect time if you want to generalize about suitable ages.
Now and this is the most important part he needs to be made aware of all the side effects and how if he wants to run cycles he will likely have to run trt for the rest of his life. That will put off many people but most are totally unaware of that when they first start and think they can just do a pct and be fine every time. I also agree he could start with MK-677 as it won't effect sex hormones but will greatly assist him adding size. Again even for that he needs to be made aware of all the potential side effects. I wouldn't bother with sarm's as most have the same side effects as gear and will suppress his natural test anyway. I would personally take full advantage of his 1st cycle so definitely not high but I wouldn't be doing just 200-250mg test per week which gets recommended a lot on here for 1st timers.
The discussion isn’t about a TRT dose of test and if it were it would be silly to even entertain if the guys test is in the 700’s naturally already.
I meant TRT between cycles. There's no reason to come off and suffer through PCT. Blasting and cruising is greatly preferable over letting nature take its course, getting weaker with age as hormone levels decline.
People generally get over their fear of needles once they try it. I'll take injecting myself every other week with test u over getting progressively weaker and less virile into my 50s, 60s, and beyond. Most men my age (45) look like shit even if they try to stay fit. Exogenous hormones are the answer.
A younger guy at my gym has been training steady for 13 year (he's 28 now) the last 2 years we trained together quite a few times and he definitely trains with intensity , I've helped him rearrange his diet some to help keep making progress and over the years he has gotten a bit leaner and added a good bit of size but he's seemed to have plateaued the last 8-9 months making very little gains and hes asking if I think it's time to try some sort of anabolics.
His current test levels are 718 taken 2 weeks ago so definitely not low. I'm kind of apprehensive about suggesting anything that may suppress his natural levels and I'm wonder is some of the SARMs might not be a decent rout to take to get a bit more gain before starting actual steroids.
I know if I could go back I'd definitely have waited longer and tried to maximize my natural potential before starting steroids.
My first 4-5 years using I had ZERO regrets, in fact I think I wrote in more than one thread here on PM that using AAS was one of the best decisions I had ever made. I would have vouched for AAS use to anyone and laughed at someone who told me otherwise.
Well the last few years since have sucked and totally changed that. The gear doesn’t do nearly as much as it used to even the strongest compounds at much higher doses and then the side effects are that much worse for it. The past few years I feel like all I’ve been doing is tip toeing around issues caused from AAS use doing my best to figure what I can and can’t use and what actually works and what doesn’t instead of seeing results from what I’m using.
I knew that day would come eventually where the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze anymore but shit I didn’t expect it so soon, maybe when I was nearing my 50’s not in my mid 30’s.
You know, thinking back on it like this I think it coincided with my decision to stop cycling and just blast and cruise instead the last couple years or so. Maybe that’s a topic for another thread....
in my mid 30s i found i had diminishing results and did my biggest cycles with little to no sides. once i crossed 36 i started to get more sensitive which only continued. now early 40s i have never been as sensitive as now. maybe it will get better with time.
as to the original question, if this guy isnt gona look at it as a life long commitment and as a responsibility then dont do it. anyone who has a fear of needles or injecting or makes a face at the thought of pinning ed for life, take up golf or pingpong. in the last 15 years i have injected myself more then i have brushed my teeth. if isnt ok with that, just dont bother.
in my mid 30s i found i had diminishing results and did my biggest cycles with little to no sides. once i crossed 36 i started to get more sensitive which only continued. now early 40s i have never been as sensitive as now. maybe it will get better with time.
as to the original question, if this guy isnt gona look at it as a life long commitment and as a responsibility then dont do it. anyone who has a fear of needles or injecting or makes a face at the thought of pinning ed for life, take up golf or pingpong. in the last 15 years i have injected myself more then i have brushed my teeth. if isnt ok with that, just dont bother.
I hope so because that experience exactly mirrors mine so far!
i wish id never touched em. in my top 4 biggest regrets of my life. sure i gained 50 pounds, but my hair fell out, my face aged terribly, tore multiple tendons and now im almost back to where i started, only uglier and worse off than if i'd never done em.
but who cares about their future when u want big muscles now. right?