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Am I the only one who never has to use an aromatase inhibitor?

Never!...up to 1000 mgs of test a week and 50 mgs of Syntex anadrol back in the 80s & 90s...
 
I take:
50mg Zinc Now Foods Ed
2mg Copper Gluconate Ed

Dbol aromatises to a very strong estrogen, which is stronger than Estradiol and also the one from Ment. I think that these methylated e2 binds stronger to nipple than other e2, but the quantity is even lower.

Tbh if I have to choose a methylated drug I would use 10-30mg Superdrol for 4weeks max.
I doubt that you need more estrogens on your cycle if it's Test based or even Test + Trest based.
Yeah man, that methylestradiol's a bitch! Even ralox at 50 mgs. a day doesn't stop the nips from puffing up. And that's only 10 mgs. Dbol a day.
 
Just an FYI, most people get no signs of gyno for their first several years of cycling, but it's still slowly growing, you just don't notice it.
 
Interesting comments. AIs are essential for me. Even my first cycle on test only required AIs within the first month. That being said I mostly take aromatizing compounds like test, dbol, and nandrolone. Low dose Letrozole is a key component in my cycles.
 
been on 2gms test week only, for bout... i dunno 4-6 months and never used an ai. no sensitive nips, no acne, nothing. i was crazy lean.
-F2S
 
50mgs inc 3x ed has been a staple of mine for years, as has gyno.
i think zinc is not the answer, yes it should be taken but for other reasons.
sex sensitive fat areas fluff up on me and the glands behind my nips get like silver dollars with adex even at 100mg/wk. this used to be my low that did not require adex, now that same 100mgs is mid to higher dose for me, 20 years ago i never would have noticed 100mgs, i dont think i bothered with anything less then 600mgs ever. im only getting more sensitive as time goes on.
 
OP It's probably best to start an AI now. And educate yourself. Before you know it you will look like a teen pornstar. I think it's best to always finish with a serm to avoid estrogen rebound from an AI. Ralox or Torem I feel way better than the traditional nolva or clomid.
 
I've been up to 2 grams a week before and never 'needed' an AI. Meaning no signs of gyno. But that doesn't mean I didn't have elevated estrogen levels. For me its a delicate balance. If i get estrogen too low, I literally cannot achieve an orgasm. I typically last a long time anyway, but my now wife and my first night was a low estrogen night. 4 hours later she tapped out, convinced I wasn't into her since I didnt/couldnt finish. Nothing could have been further from the truth. Makes for awkward situations, guys can't convincingly fake an orgasm....
 
more and more researchers and doctors in the TRT field are saying stay as far away for AI as possible. my E2 is high per an ultra-sensitive test yet i have zero symptoms and feel great. i think we are going to see a lot of guys with health issues in the next ten years or so from blocking aromatization.
 
more and more researchers and doctors in the TRT field are saying stay as far away for AI as possible. my E2 is high per an ultra-sensitive test yet i have zero symptoms and feel great. i think we are going to see a lot of guys with health issues in the next ten years or so from blocking aromatization.

Agree but on the other side you have those who say to use to not get hepatic adenomas etc ...
 
I've taken them due to them being hyped online, never needed them though
 
over time it has gone from estro being the root of all evil to estro can do no wrong

This, to an absolutely absurd degree. In the 90's and early 2000's, we thought that estrogen was terrible and to be minimized. Now that there are TRT doctors prescribing estradiol tablets along with testosterone to their patients, I think it's safe to say the pendulum has swung way too far in the opposite direction.

There is a common sense answer somewhere in the middle for most people, but then common sense is often the hardest thing for people to understand and accept.
 
more and more researchers and doctors in the TRT field are saying stay as far away for AI as possible. my E2 is high per an ultra-sensitive test yet i have zero symptoms and feel great. i think we are going to see a lot of guys with health issues in the next ten years or so from blocking aromatization.


well... AI only reduce estrogen by 50%
 
Agree but on the other side you have those who say to use to not get hepatic adenomas etc ...



those are the only things that concern me... just reread baldnazi's thread along with PMchris, flexdurden, muscledoc, altair, and hellaswole


i got a CT scan on my liver as part of a checkup... they found a bunch of tumors on my liver.

all hemangiomas. scared the fuck out of me as i was reading the report until i got to the conclusion/diagnosis
 
from what i am now understanding and researching for men even with the ultra-sensitive test you are still no getting an accurate reading. and most if not all symptoms claiming to estradiol are really cause by hormonal fluctuations caused dosing protocols and frequencies.
 

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