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But your making a blanket statement again. Why is Ronnie the definition of training heavy? My definition of training heavy is much different than people who train ballistically. I dont believe in training ballistically over the longterm. I believe training heavy can mean 20 reps, 12 reps, 8 reps, 16 reps.....I dont feel Ronnie holds the definition of "training heavy" in the dictionary. When i saw that 800lb deadlift for 2 and 800lb squat for 2 I was so gdamn impressed, it was ungodly... do you know what I also thought? Man why the heck would you ever take a chance like that (especially 5 weeks out from a show)? Its a bad ending waiting to happen. I guess it comes down to this....who do you believe owns the "training heavy" definition. Ive told JP and Dusty multiple times now I wish they would up their rep range because I feel they will eventually get injured and this is a simple fact: a 495lb squat you have never done before for 20 reps is insanely impressive and builds muscle mass....Dusty is starting to listen to me. Jordan....he followed my stretch under load recommendations but its hard to get him to raise his rep ranges. Ill keep working on him. ......But i just dont think you can lump all this stuff together because a guy who deadlifts a good amount of weight for 20 reps (to me anyway) is just as impressive as a guy who does a double or triple.....and most likely is building just as much if not more muscle mass.
In simple terms if XPOC because of Covid or some other circumstances (injuries/equipment/ etc) can only do front smith barbell presses for his shoulders....and XPOC feels that doing sets of 16-20 reps is a safe range he can train in to not get injured....guess what? The only way you are going to get larger over a lengthy amount of time is by using greater and greater amount of weight in that 16-20 rep range you have deemed safe for yourself. If you decide to stay with the exact weight that you trained with today for 18 reps for the next 3 years I can promise you that 3 years from now when you do that weight again for 18 reps for the 150th time.....your shoulders will be right about the exact same size they are today. There would be no reason whatsoever for your shoulders to adapt/get larger/to handle progressively increasing loads.
In simple terms if XPOC because of Covid or some other circumstances (injuries/equipment/ etc) can only do front smith barbell presses for his shoulders....and XPOC feels that doing sets of 16-20 reps is a safe range he can train in to not get injured....guess what? The only way you are going to get larger over a lengthy amount of time is by using greater and greater amount of weight in that 16-20 rep range you have deemed safe for yourself. If you decide to stay with the exact weight that you trained with today for 18 reps for the next 3 years I can promise you that 3 years from now when you do that weight again for 18 reps for the 150th time.....your shoulders will be right about the exact same size they are today. There would be no reason whatsoever for your shoulders to adapt/get larger/to handle progressively increasing loads.