The post isn´t ridiculous in the least, some of you have to understand we´re not all "enhanced" here and thus some opinions are to be seen through that lens. Alfresco is expressing his experience on the minimum requirements for growth, I made very good gains from when I was 16yrs to 18yrs and wasn´t taking supps or eating tons of protein, and when I did start taking supps and protein powder the results weren´t anything to write home about, I pushed the food and ended up getting fat. Here´s a 1949 photo of a Nuba tribesman taken by George Rodger so you can picture what Alfresco has seen, that tribesman had no access to a gym, wasn´t on tren, test or eating 300g of protein, EAA´s, creatine etc and he was still in better shape than 99% of the world population at the time, and yes, in my current state I envy that physique: